• Dimi Fisher@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    That’s communist dude not left, I m sure Denmark which is a socialistic country is left for you too, anyway do some traveling and stop spreading bollocks

    • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      It’s not even communist. Western Propaganda really created a false impression on this term…

      I don’t think we really had communism yet on the world.

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        3 months ago

        We’ve really had communism in the world.

        You just don’t agree that it’s communism.

        Reality is real, your idealistic purity is an impossibility. Deal with how things are, not how you wish them to be

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        3 months ago

        We never had communism in the same way we never had a person fly by flapping their arms after jumping of a roof. It’s not that we did not try, it just does not end with a flying person.

        To have communism, you have to concentrate all the wealth and power in some sort of government so that people don’t own “the means of production”. And when you concentrate all power in the government, human nature produces some sort of dictatorship.

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          3 months ago

          human nature is not an explanation, it is hand waiving. and communism is a stateless society. no one should believe anything you’ve said here.

          there is a cure for political illiteracy.

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            3 months ago

            human nature is not an explanation

            Yes, it is handwaving, because I ain’t spending time writing paragraphs of shit anyone with two brain cells to rub together can easily figure out on their own.

            communism is a stateless society

            Just because you string words together does not mean they mean something. If people don’t own/control the means of production, someone else does. Either you have private capital or a governing body. Calling it “stateless society” means nothing. That is actual handwaving of real issues.

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              “Just because you string words together does not mean they mean something. If people don’t own/control the means of production, someone else does. Either you have private capital or a governing body. Calling it “stateless society” means nothing. That is actual handwaving of real issues.”

              communism is a stateless classless moneyless society. your semantic game doesn’t change the facts

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                3 months ago

                communism is a stateless classless moneyless society

                So it’s a fantasy where everyone magically knows what to do, how and when. Then does it with no incentive or punishment. No coordinators, police, or anything else required. Ok, clear. Now can we get back to real world ideas?

                Because if there is anyone who has the ability to order people to do something and punish them for not doing it or decide distribution of incentives, that is called a government. No matter how you try to rename it or handwave it.

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              “Yes, it is handwaving, because I ain’t spending time writing paragraphs of shit anyone with two brain cells to rub together can easily figure out on their own.”

              this also is not evidence