Personally I’m ecstatic. I’ve hated everything Kurtzman had done with Star Trek. The writing has been so bad, I’m fairly certain the writers resumes were just showing their Reddit history and Twitter history.
The nutrek complaints were so prolific and cruel, but somehow many many people really liked them. I’ve long thought that the hate campaign was astroturfed, as nobody would watch 5 seasons of a show they hated.
You’d be surprised. I gave up on the second episode of Picard and thought the first season of DISC was alright right up until they went to the mirror universe. Decided it wasn’t for me.
But my dad watched every single episode of everything that Paramount has put out. He hates them, but he watched 'em. Talks about them the same way he talks about ENT or the JJ Abrams movies.
I’d more argue Star Trek is a procedural cop show in space, but yeah pretty much. The last really good science fiction movie I saw was probably Arrival, and that was ten years ago.
Hail Mary Project is a great book, but they dumbed it down to a buddy comedy for the movie.
Andy Weir proved that there could be huge potential for actual science fiction, not whatever the fuck Star Wars or Star Trek is. Those franchises seem to appeal to people with no STEM education. It’s not hard to write plots that make no scientific sense.
Paramount is taking a minority but vocal online response as gospel, like they have for all new trek.
The 90s era shows there was no social media. All it’s done is give “influencers” with minority opinions that peddle anger to make ad revenue from YouTube and Twitter, an outsized voice for corporations to listen to. The same types of people that seem to have opinions totally anathema to the Trek ethos in general. The anti-Woke brigade coming along as if Trek doing the same thing it always has is somehow new and different.
For the modern trek shows, that seems to be the only group that Paramount listens to, probably because it requires absolutely no effort. They can have ChatGPT or Grok consolidate those opinions easily.
It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.
It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.
I personally believe this is the only factor at play. They’re clearing house so they can produce a fascist friendly Trek franchise. It’s the trajectory they’d go in no matter what reception Academy got. The online hubbub is just convenient cover.
You need to get a clue. Paramount didnt cancel it because of negative social media chatter. They cancelled it because the Nielsen ratings sucked. People weren’t watching it. - in spite of all the “love” studio bot shills were shitting out all over social media. You are actually the one in the minority .
I haven’t been watching Trek for a long time now, the only recent series I liked was Lower Decks. The Kurtzman stuff just hasn’t been doing anything for me. So I 'm happy that there will be an opportunity for a fresh start. I don’t mind a hiatus because I wasn’t watching anyway.
People couldn’t stop whining about this show, and yet now that its cancelled they are all gone. Probably because half that shit was just more right-wing astroturf bullshit.
Are we happy or sad?
I’m sad. There’s long been a chain of movies or shows to look forward to. I’ve enjoyed most of them, been infuriated with a few, but it was all Trek.
I don’t trust the Ellisons with Trek, so maybe it’s better if they let it fade, but it’s still a loss, and I’m sad.
I’m not ready for fascist Star Trek, so its probably better this way.
It’s all Mirror Universe now
Well now I’m sad too 😭
yeah, i hate to admit it but you’re right about the Ellisons. this may be a blessing in disguise
Sad. The 32nd century era didn’t give me much, but trek being in production gives momentum for more trek.
Personally I’m ecstatic. I’ve hated everything Kurtzman had done with Star Trek. The writing has been so bad, I’m fairly certain the writers resumes were just showing their Reddit history and Twitter history.
I’m mad. No. Furious. All you bitchin assholes always trashing new trek won again.
The upcoming Picard movie is also cancelled?!?
I’m so angry about this.
The nutrek complaints were so prolific and cruel, but somehow many many people really liked them. I’ve long thought that the hate campaign was astroturfed, as nobody would watch 5 seasons of a show they hated.
I’m angry too.
You’d be surprised. I gave up on the second episode of Picard and thought the first season of DISC was alright right up until they went to the mirror universe. Decided it wasn’t for me.
But my dad watched every single episode of everything that Paramount has put out. He hates them, but he watched 'em. Talks about them the same way he talks about ENT or the JJ Abrams movies.
Star Wars is religious fantasy not science fiction, Star Trek is endless naval gazing, not science fiction.
Aside from Andy Weir, people have dumbed down science fiction to soap operas in spaceships and it’s just not interesting or entertaining.
I’d more argue Star Trek is a procedural cop show in space, but yeah pretty much. The last really good science fiction movie I saw was probably Arrival, and that was ten years ago.
Hail Mary Project is a great book, but they dumbed it down to a buddy comedy for the movie.
Andy Weir proved that there could be huge potential for actual science fiction, not whatever the fuck Star Wars or Star Trek is. Those franchises seem to appeal to people with no STEM education. It’s not hard to write plots that make no scientific sense.
I gave up after 3 seasons of disco.
Not MadMad?
I’m furiously MadMad.
Furious.
Paramount is taking a minority but vocal online response as gospel, like they have for all new trek.
The 90s era shows there was no social media. All it’s done is give “influencers” with minority opinions that peddle anger to make ad revenue from YouTube and Twitter, an outsized voice for corporations to listen to. The same types of people that seem to have opinions totally anathema to the Trek ethos in general. The anti-Woke brigade coming along as if Trek doing the same thing it always has is somehow new and different.
For the modern trek shows, that seems to be the only group that Paramount listens to, probably because it requires absolutely no effort. They can have ChatGPT or Grok consolidate those opinions easily.
It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.
I personally believe this is the only factor at play. They’re clearing house so they can produce a fascist friendly Trek franchise. It’s the trajectory they’d go in no matter what reception Academy got. The online hubbub is just convenient cover.
You need to get a clue. Paramount didnt cancel it because of negative social media chatter. They cancelled it because the Nielsen ratings sucked. People weren’t watching it. - in spite of all the “love” studio bot shills were shitting out all over social media. You are actually the one in the minority .
I finally got around to stealing my dad’s prime account with P+ and watched this. It was ok, at best.
Ambivalent.
So long as the current execs remain the current execs we will not have good Trek.
Without people with a positive and aspirational ideology for humanity’s future we will not have good Trek.
When those kinds of people left Trek, Trek should have stayed dead.
What about this could there be to be happy about?
No fascist propaganda pieces masquerading as Star Trek due to its new ownership. This option may not be optimal, but it’s the lesser of two evils.
I haven’t been watching Trek for a long time now, the only recent series I liked was Lower Decks. The Kurtzman stuff just hasn’t been doing anything for me. So I 'm happy that there will be an opportunity for a fresh start. I don’t mind a hiatus because I wasn’t watching anyway.
Same here. Snw s1 was promising, but they’ve just been getting stupider and stupider with the storylines. LD is the only one still holding up so far.
People couldn’t stop whining about this show, and yet now that its cancelled they are all gone. Probably because half that shit was just more right-wing astroturf bullshit.
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