Thus ends all planned Trek shows and movies. No movies or shows are planned or in the works.

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    3 days ago

    Good riddance, it was too much of a Netflix college melodrama with a Trek skin, psychologically incoherent and on the shallowest side of progressism, as usual for modern american productions.

    I absolutely hated the captain, who was a caricature of a bare-foot yoga instructor selling you expensive kale smoothies to “realign your chakras”. Shallow AF. American AF. It would have been much more interesting if the protagonist had enrolled to actually kill her, making the show about the consequences of that event (or her survival and the consequences of it. Will she forgive and instruct her killer? Will she get revenge? Etc etc)

    It did become interesting in the late episodes, but those should have been the starting ones. Thankfully, there is Strange New World, but even them got into fan-service slop episodes in the latest season (a wedding planning Q? Is that the new version of “the doc is having a scorching tryst with a ghost”/“suddenly, Abraham Lincoln” episode?).

    Anyway, Star Trek Prodigy was better at Starfleet Academy than Starfleet Academy actually is.

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    3 days ago

    Oh I do hope that is the end of kurtzman trek.

    Enjoying rewatching TNG to get the infuriating hyper-dumb bad-taste of SFA out of my being.

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    4 days ago

    I just wish for a bunch of drama students to cobble something together and show it on YouTube/Nebula/whatever. I honestly believe that the high production value gets in the way of good storytelling and character development.

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      I totally agree. My only real issue with NuTrek is that it doesn’t look crappy enough. The old shows were low budget and you could tell. It was part of their charm.

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      5 days ago

      I’m sad. There’s long been a chain of movies or shows to look forward to. I’ve enjoyed most of them, been infuriated with a few, but it was all Trek.

      I don’t trust the Ellisons with Trek, so maybe it’s better if they let it fade, but it’s still a loss, and I’m sad.

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      Personally I’m ecstatic. I’ve hated everything Kurtzman had done with Star Trek. The writing has been so bad, I’m fairly certain the writers resumes were just showing their Reddit history and Twitter history.

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      5 days ago

      I’m mad. No. Furious. All you bitchin assholes always trashing new trek won again.

      The upcoming Picard movie is also cancelled?!?

      I’m so angry about this.

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        5 days ago

        The nutrek complaints were so prolific and cruel, but somehow many many people really liked them. I’ve long thought that the hate campaign was astroturfed, as nobody would watch 5 seasons of a show they hated.

        I’m angry too.

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          You’d be surprised. I gave up on the second episode of Picard and thought the first season of DISC was alright right up until they went to the mirror universe. Decided it wasn’t for me.

          But my dad watched every single episode of everything that Paramount has put out. He hates them, but he watched 'em. Talks about them the same way he talks about ENT or the JJ Abrams movies.

          • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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            4 days ago

            Star Wars is religious fantasy not science fiction, Star Trek is endless naval gazing, not science fiction.

            Aside from Andy Weir, people have dumbed down science fiction to soap operas in spaceships and it’s just not interesting or entertaining.

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              I’d more argue Star Trek is a procedural cop show in space, but yeah pretty much. The last really good science fiction movie I saw was probably Arrival, and that was ten years ago.

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                Hail Mary Project is a great book, but they dumbed it down to a buddy comedy for the movie.

                Andy Weir proved that there could be huge potential for actual science fiction, not whatever the fuck Star Wars or Star Trek is. Those franchises seem to appeal to people with no STEM education. It’s not hard to write plots that make no scientific sense.

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      Furious.

      Paramount is taking a minority but vocal online response as gospel, like they have for all new trek.

      The 90s era shows there was no social media. All it’s done is give “influencers” with minority opinions that peddle anger to make ad revenue from YouTube and Twitter, an outsized voice for corporations to listen to. The same types of people that seem to have opinions totally anathema to the Trek ethos in general. The anti-Woke brigade coming along as if Trek doing the same thing it always has is somehow new and different.

      For the modern trek shows, that seems to be the only group that Paramount listens to, probably because it requires absolutely no effort. They can have ChatGPT or Grok consolidate those opinions easily.

      It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.

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        It probably doesn’t help that clear public fascists were just allowed to purchase Paramount. And Trek’s ideas are directly counter to how they want the world to work.

        I personally believe this is the only factor at play. They’re clearing house so they can produce a fascist friendly Trek franchise. It’s the trajectory they’d go in no matter what reception Academy got. The online hubbub is just convenient cover.

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        4 days ago

        You need to get a clue. Paramount didnt cancel it because of negative social media chatter. They cancelled it because the Nielsen ratings sucked. People weren’t watching it. - in spite of all the “love” studio bot shills were shitting out all over social media. You are actually the one in the minority .

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      Ambivalent.

      So long as the current execs remain the current execs we will not have good Trek.

      Without people with a positive and aspirational ideology for humanity’s future we will not have good Trek.

      When those kinds of people left Trek, Trek should have stayed dead.

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        No fascist propaganda pieces masquerading as Star Trek due to its new ownership. This option may not be optimal, but it’s the lesser of two evils.

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        I haven’t been watching Trek for a long time now, the only recent series I liked was Lower Decks. The Kurtzman stuff just hasn’t been doing anything for me. So I 'm happy that there will be an opportunity for a fresh start. I don’t mind a hiatus because I wasn’t watching anyway.

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          4 days ago

          Same here. Snw s1 was promising, but they’ve just been getting stupider and stupider with the storylines. LD is the only one still holding up so far.

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        People couldn’t stop whining about this show, and yet now that its cancelled they are all gone. Probably because half that shit was just more right-wing astroturf bullshit.

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    Dear Paramount, I used to buy all of your Star Treks. Now your mobile app is the worst kind of spyware.

    Please keep making great shows, so I can buy them later, when your CEO is in jail for you mobile app being ruled illegal.

    Thanks!

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    They overdid it again. Too many shows at the same time and now we’ll have a decade(s) long lull.

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      I’d rather have nothing at all than these guys trying to milk a brand name for money.

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        My point of view is: they had some success, they tried to milk it for money, it was overdone, and now because it was overdone we will have nothing at all.

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      I’m actually not sure if it was the number of shows or the fact that Star Trek has historically been episodic (even with DS9’s larger arcs), which is suited to longer seasons. The limited runs of modern shows places a lot more pressure on them to succeed instantly (and have a higher percentage of highly rated episodes) than the TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era.

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    And not all of Paramount’s bots or all of Paramount’s shills could shield Star Trek Starfleet Academy from reality.

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    What is this about new shows? They’ve only made TOS and its movies, TNG and its movies, DS9, and Voyager.