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You’re saying I get to pass my ships through the strait AND I get to expel Israeli and American psychos from my country?!
Doesn’t matter, if their insurance doesn’t cover it no ship is going to risk it.
Canada isn’t part of the offer, but I’d be happy if we expelled Pete Hoekstra for nothing other than the joy of kicking that evil fat fuck out of the country.
That guy is a colossal piece of shit.
It would be awesome if we just did it anyways. Tho Danielle Smith would run with it in the dumbest way possible.
Carney has made it clear his priority is establishing Canadian economic dominance. Perhaps when Canada holds more cards he will leverage them to intervene in Gaza. Perhaps.
Based.
GCC US colonial bases are completely destroyed to point, where they are unlikely to be rebuilt. Trump’s threat of pure terrorism on Iran infrastructure puts GCC infrastructure and survivability at retaliatory risk, with US utterly incapable or unwilling to divert defensive resources away from Zionazi master.
I’m unsure if quote is real, but GCC needs to, if not outright ally with Iran, assert their full neutrality and disinvest from US and Israel, arrest and deport all US military, seize any remaining equipment, join BRICS and SCO. A worse betrayal to humanity by Zionazi axis terrorist strikes, means desperate measures by GCC to save themselves from Iran, as a bigger threat than Israeli black flag intimidation.
Trump’s escalating desperation rhetoric from Yesterday, should be framed as setting up the total annihilation of Gulf ally metropolises and directly threatening their financialization of US economy, and westernish real estate wealth in the region.
It appears to be true with fact checking here
“The claim is indeed true that Iran has offered ‘full right and freedom’ to transit the strategic waterway if Arab and European nations sever ties with the US and Israel, as per state broadcaster IRIB.”
How will Iran protect those ships from Israel and US?
Normally I’d say “isn’t that a silly question?”
But considering the guys running this war are a drunk TV show host and an octogenarian TV show host with dementia, I could totally see them just bombing random ships for fun.
After all, it makes them feel like a big boy and it’s the peasants’ kids that get to endure the consequences.
They are.
Some people think it’s super fun to beat up small-fingered vulgarians, too
My favorite bit from Spy magazine (which first called Trump a “short-fingered vulgarian” back in the '80s) was when they published an errata and apologized for calling Trump a “short-fingered Bulgarian” – the apology was to Bulgaria.
Bombing ships for fun
Like we have off the coast of Venezuela?
I couldn’t, at least not until several years more of their regime. Israel, on the other hand, got away with flagrantly drone bombing a Gaza bound humanitarian fleet even while it was docked in a foreign country. They would totally false flag attack anyone who actually agreed to expel their ambassadors for passage.
Israel is also involved. I would be surprised if they didn’t bomb anyone trying to take advantage of this offer. Especially if there were children on board.
“You gotta go after the families”.
That was the Trump quote that made me horrified at anyone who still supported him. Child murderer.
Notably, he has a (adult) nephew that has stood on the side of justice and I bear no ill will to her.
He has said and done so many things that would get anyone kicked out of politics 25 years ago. Howard Dean’s campaign was scrubbed for an enthusiastic yell. Trump supporters are the main reason why I think democracy is doomed to fail, unless we can find a fair and unbiased way to remove the most vile, stupid and gullible people from the voting pool.
The is is not going to blow up a Chinese boat for example…
Or maybe it will.
Yea, the stupidity of this US regime just might surprise you. Everyone expects stupid and idiotic things from them … but these criminal pedophiles always seem to take it a step further.
The Stupid is amped up to 11
Ok where is the article I swear the BBC hide this shit to spin narratives
This statement was made live on BBC but the report seems to be true, here are some links.
What is this picture from? (I mean what show / movie, do you know?)
The painting is a meme, bu the character is Shadoweheart, from Baldurs Gate 3.
It’s too bad they limited this offer to Arab and European states or we could’ve done something pretty funny.
I must be dense because, I don’t know what the funny impliction is. Please explain it to me 🥲
The USA expels our own ambassadors and the ones from Israel in exchange for Iran’s permission to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
Thank you for explaining that to me. Idk how I didn’t pick up on it sooner lol
I think they’d still honor it. Let’s give it a shot.
Awww, I wanna kick out our Israeli and USan ambassadors!
By all means do so!
Yes, we all want to kick the Israeli and US ambassadors.
I hear they have a special boot for that in Australia.
Just make sure to pay your respects to the boot! (Amazing how I immediatly knew what Simpson episode this refers to.)
Didn’t we (the US) technically kick out our ambassadors? By sending them off to other countries?
No fair, I wanna participate too! Can we expel our own diplomats to Iran?
Not until you cleaned up your political class, young man/lady/lizard!
🦎
Gansta for Iran, but typical Trump style
Does Iran actually have the capability to close the Strait though? I thought every naval asset they have has been flattened.
The Straits are 20 miles at the narrowest. they can hit ships with artillery. Plus they also have drones, which they’ve been using to hit over ten oil tankers since the illegal war began
All you have to do is scare the money people.
Trade ships will redirect at even the threat of being met with any confrontation. It is not worth the risk. Iran doesn’t need a Navy to do this either. They need a couple dudes with AKs in a speedboat.
For more info. Just look at Yemen’s blockade as an example.
Ships aren’t gonna risk massive payloads. Insurance won’t cover the loss either.
Don’t even need to get near the ocean, they can just sit inland and launch drones and rockets at passing ships like the Houthis did.
Iran can close the straight with like 2 dudes with RPGs.
I’m picturing two Iranian guys, sitting in beach chairs next to the straight, sipping coctails, next to a crate marked “RPG”.
JustCause 3 loading screen vibes
Exactly the mental picture I had too.
Plot twist, the crate is full of Monster Manuals and Dungeon Keepers Guides, and the guys were just hoping to have a fun afternoon.
Playing RPGs on their Steam Decks
I had the same thought only with a truck full of drones behind them.
It’s already closed. The threat and the resulting insurance pull is all that’s needed. https://shanakaanslemperera.substack.com/p/actuarial-warfare-how-seven-insurance
Greek sailors are nutters
The Greeks and the Persians go way back.
Oil tankers tend to be a pretty risk-averse group. They’re not going to risk getting hit and having their multi-million dollar cargo go up in flames, even if the risk of getting hit while transiting the strait is relatively low.
Considering it has signficantly affected oil prices. Yes.
A large amount of ships are currently stuck in the persian gulf. A significant portion of this is because they do not want to take the risk. The threat is enough to be effective but Iran is also enforcing it.
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
It’s a baller thing to say. But if they’ve lost air superiority (or even if it’s compromised) then it doesn’t mean much.
Losing Air superiority doesn’t mean their artillery stops working.
I read somewhere that Iran can close the strait without a full-scale naval engagement using selective drone strikes and harassing vessels, Iran triggers a spike in maritime insurance premiums which will choke shipping companies. Also because of the narrow width of the strait, also shallow, Iran can use mines, they have both simple contact mines to sophisticated “smart” mines, apparently they possesses one of the largest naval mine inventories in the world.
How shallow? If a ship gets sunk would that be another obstacle?
Those are fair points. They don’t need to block all targeted traffic. They just have to be enough of a threat/pain in the ass for transportation and insurance rates to go up to an uncomfortable level. It’s all about threat and perception.
Sure, the US air force and navy could bomb the shit out of their artillery placements. But given how (relatively) cheap and effective drones are, that might not be as effective as it seems at first.
They’re a petrostate with a hopelessly outdated air force, the US or any other developed country can destroy their infrastructure at their leisure and bring their economy to it’s knees. Which they would happily do if Iran sinks a vessel flagged in their waters.
They also need a working vessel to lay those mines.
lol a country and people that has existed in that region for thousands of years hosting multiple land empires, survived multiple genocidal Mongol hordes…is a petrostate that will crumble if you just bomb some stuff.
Fucking Americunt MAGA brainrot.
The Iranian nation as we know it only came into existence with the fall of the Shah.
The land will always be there, the regime, not so much.
And what do you suppose happens to all those civilians whose economy is now in shambles? Assuming they aren’t killed in the missile strikes, that is.
You realize that threats like this don’t work AFTER you already did it, right?
There will be something they haven’t hit yet.
Like their pre-schools. That’ll show em how mighty our brave troops and weapons are.
Israel is involved here so that’s not a joke.
Sure, and they are going to bomb it regardless, you see the problem with killing the people you were negotiating with? The next guy isn’t going to come to the table.
Think Americans are going to give up all their comforts and wealth just to bump off Iran?
Also just to add to your point. Even if Trump and Co try to force away those conforts how long till you start getting little IRA style sessesionist groups? The US powergrid alone is a rather vast vulnerability.
It’s not really baller if everyone just ignores them, and joins a US led convoy through the Strait.
Neat, the US taxpayers are going to spend billions of dollars to escort oil for the Arabs. All in order to reduce the value of America’s own oil exports. How likely do you think that is?
Pretty likely. Iran will break before America.
Except you can’t even define what that means. How does Iran “break”? They are literally just existing in their country. Where are they supposed to go? Closing the straight was a RESPONSE to American bombings of civilian targets. Are they supposed to just let the US bomb more civilian targets or else they will keep bombing civilian targets? How does that even make sense?
Conversely, the US is spending billions of dollars to do what, exactly? What are the American people getting back on this investment? Do you really think that Americans are going to tolerate increased costs of every product they purchase forever just to achieve the … that is the goal of this whole enterprise?
They don’t need naval assets all they need to do is give the green light to Russian proxies who will lay mines and knock it out of action for years.
More like a “gangster rapper” move, because that’s just saying dumb shit.
