• NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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    Canada isn’t part of the offer, but I’d be happy if we expelled Pete Hoekstra for nothing other than the joy of kicking that evil fat fuck out of the country.

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    More like a “gangster rapper” move, because that’s just saying dumb shit.

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      Normally I’d say “isn’t that a silly question?”

      But considering the guys running this war are a drunk TV show host and an octogenarian TV show host with dementia, I could totally see them just bombing random ships for fun.

      After all, it makes them feel like a big boy and it’s the peasants’ kids that get to endure the consequences.

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        Israel is also involved. I would be surprised if they didn’t bomb anyone trying to take advantage of this offer. Especially if there were children on board.

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        Yea, the stupidity of this US regime just might surprise you. Everyone expects stupid and idiotic things from them … but these criminal pedophiles always seem to take it a step further.

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    11 hours ago

    Does Iran actually have the capability to close the Strait though? I thought every naval asset they have has been flattened.

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      Trade ships will redirect at even the threat of being met with any confrontation. It is not worth the risk. Iran doesn’t need a Navy to do this either. They need a couple dudes with AKs in a speedboat.

      For more info. Just look at Yemen’s blockade as an example.

      Ships aren’t gonna risk massive payloads. Insurance won’t cover the loss either.

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        Don’t even need to get near the ocean, they can just sit inland and launch drones and rockets at passing ships like the Houthis did.

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      They don’t need naval assets all they need to do is give the green light to Russian proxies who will lay mines and knock it out of action for years.

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        I’m picturing two Iranian guys, sitting in beach chairs next to the straight, sipping coctails, next to a crate marked “RPG”.

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      Oil tankers tend to be a pretty risk-averse group. They’re not going to risk getting hit and having their multi-million dollar cargo go up in flames, even if the risk of getting hit while transiting the strait is relatively low.

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      Considering it has signficantly affected oil prices. Yes.

      A large amount of ships are currently stuck in the persian gulf. A significant portion of this is because they do not want to take the risk. The threat is enough to be effective but Iran is also enforcing it.

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      11 hours ago

      I’ve been wondering the same thing.

      It’s a baller thing to say. But if they’ve lost air superiority (or even if it’s compromised) then it doesn’t mean much.

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        I read somewhere that Iran can close the strait without a full-scale naval engagement using selective drone strikes and harassing vessels, Iran triggers a spike in maritime insurance premiums which will choke shipping companies. Also because of the narrow width of the strait, also shallow, Iran can use mines, they have both simple contact mines to sophisticated “smart” mines, apparently they possesses one of the largest naval mine inventories in the world.

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          Those are fair points. They don’t need to block all targeted traffic. They just have to be enough of a threat/pain in the ass for transportation and insurance rates to go up to an uncomfortable level. It’s all about threat and perception.

          Sure, the US air force and navy could bomb the shit out of their artillery placements. But given how (relatively) cheap and effective drones are, that might not be as effective as it seems at first.

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          They’re a petrostate with a hopelessly outdated air force, the US or any other developed country can destroy their infrastructure at their leisure and bring their economy to it’s knees. Which they would happily do if Iran sinks a vessel flagged in their waters.

          They also need a working vessel to lay those mines.

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            lol a country and people that has existed in that region for thousands of years hosting multiple land empires, survived multiple genocidal Mongol hordes…is a petrostate that will crumble if you just bomb some stuff.

            Fucking Americunt MAGA brainrot.

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              The Iranian nation as we know it only came into existence with the fall of the Shah.

              The land will always be there, the regime, not so much.

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                Like their pre-schools. That’ll show em how mighty our brave troops and weapons are.

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                Sure, and they are going to bomb it regardless, you see the problem with killing the people you were negotiating with? The next guy isn’t going to come to the table.

                Think Americans are going to give up all their comforts and wealth just to bump off Iran?

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                  Also just to add to your point. Even if Trump and Co try to force away those conforts how long till you start getting little IRA style sessesionist groups? The US powergrid alone is a rather vast vulnerability.

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          Neat, the US taxpayers are going to spend billions of dollars to escort oil for the Arabs. All in order to reduce the value of America’s own oil exports. How likely do you think that is?