I avoided Gnome for exactly that reason for years but the shell extensions for gnome have improved a lot and it’s pretty flexible now. If you don’t mind depending on the addin authors maintaining your favorites.Dash to panel or dock is virtually a whole different UI.
Ngl, for me both GNOME and GTK+ suck, their governance, design principles, development principles, and both user-facing and dev-facing cultures, are authoritarian and really toxic.
Look at, for example, the Mutter controversy, or the controversy woth GTK4 and the subsequent creation of both MATE and Cinnamon, or the drama with Zrythm (which author I do personally support) and FalkTX, etc.
I honestly find it odd that anyone brings up “no choices” and “lack of customisation” as a point against GNOME at all… Nothing in any desktop environment comes close to the versatility of GNOME extensions.
the extensions might not be core utilities of gnome and break on an update, but they allow for customization that even kde doesn’t provide yet everyone is saying gnome has a “lack of customization”
Yes, KDE included. I don’t think you understand the level of flexibility that being able to monkey-patch the GNOME shell provides. And I say that as someone who loves both KDE and GNOME for different reasons.
Honestly, I personally feel sorry (with every intention to offend) that you and others like you settle for and defend tooth and nail a half-baked solution, glued together with saliva and that breaks every time a core GNOME developer decides on it like monkey-patching over a shitty API. Not to mention the fact that KDE also allows it, and I say this as a KDE user, for the deepest part of its extensibility and scriptability, but without breaking it just because it looked ugly, and also allows other types of extensions, such as compiled dynamic libraries, or Plasmoids and components.
I mean, you can say anything you want. Just doesn’t change reality. GNOME devs do a lot these days to prevent updates from breaking extensions.
KDE also simply doesn’t allow everything GNOME allows. I love KDE and I have past contributions to KDE as well. But pretending they’re on the same level of customizability is delusional. It’s not a helpful or meaningful statement to make, a statement born out of pure ignorance. Plus, you dragged KDE into this, not me. Not everything needs to be a fking desktop war for no fking reason.
They could, but they never will though. Chiefly because someone asked them to and, after stamping their feet like Veruca Salt, the devs have resolved to never ever stop pouting about it.
Are you suggesting there is something wrong with any of these names:
unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes, fsck, fsck, fsck, umount, sleep
man
every Command Line Interface Tool
(not Linux but there are special printers for clothing called DTF’s )
man man
This week, I ran ‘man mount’ while learning about bind mounts.
I mean there are audiovisual teaching aids for how to mount men all over the Internet. Or so I’m told
In this context I really hope you mean aides.
I giggle every time I see ‘man touch’
I just watched that movie.
jq, ed
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Also, in Italian “sudo” means “I sweat”.
sudo nanomeans “I sweat, dwarf”
I like how developers are not shying away from possibility of them having foot fetish (foot terminal, gnome logo being a foot)
The foot is actually symbolic for the devs stepping all over you with their opinionated design and no choices
Ah so BDSM then /s
No just BSD
BSDMobile?
IOS
Oh. Plenty, they just don’t fuck with ‘consent’.
I avoided Gnome for exactly that reason for years but the shell extensions for gnome have improved a lot and it’s pretty flexible now. If you don’t mind depending on the addin authors maintaining your favorites.Dash to panel or dock is virtually a whole different UI.
Ngl, for me both GNOME and GTK+ suck, their governance, design principles, development principles, and both user-facing and dev-facing cultures, are authoritarian and really toxic. Look at, for example, the Mutter controversy, or the controversy woth GTK4 and the subsequent creation of both MATE and Cinnamon, or the drama with Zrythm (which author I do personally support) and FalkTX, etc.
I honestly find it odd that anyone brings up “no choices” and “lack of customisation” as a point against GNOME at all… Nothing in any desktop environment comes close to the versatility of GNOME extensions.
finally someone says it.
the extensions might not be core utilities of gnome and break on an update, but they allow for customization that even kde doesn’t provide yet everyone is saying gnome has a “lack of customization”
KDE ehem…
Yes, KDE included. I don’t think you understand the level of flexibility that being able to monkey-patch the GNOME shell provides. And I say that as someone who loves both KDE and GNOME for different reasons.
Honestly, I personally feel sorry (with every intention to offend) that you and others like you settle for and defend tooth and nail a half-baked solution, glued together with saliva and that breaks every time a core GNOME developer decides on it like monkey-patching over a shitty API. Not to mention the fact that KDE also allows it, and I say this as a KDE user, for the deepest part of its extensibility and scriptability, but without breaking it just because it looked ugly, and also allows other types of extensions, such as compiled dynamic libraries, or Plasmoids and components.
I mean, you can say anything you want. Just doesn’t change reality. GNOME devs do a lot these days to prevent updates from breaking extensions.
KDE also simply doesn’t allow everything GNOME allows. I love KDE and I have past contributions to KDE as well. But pretending they’re on the same level of customizability is delusional. It’s not a helpful or meaningful statement to make, a statement born out of pure ignorance. Plus, you dragged KDE into this, not me. Not everything needs to be a fking desktop war for no fking reason.
Man, I remember laughing like a school boy when I first heard of the “finger” util in college, lol.
Also
finger \! && exitPip yay
> man womanNo manual entry for womanBro literal said “No bitches?” 😭😭😭😭
Also bitchx
Also there’s Rufus
I’m crying rn, caca means poop in spanish 😭😭😭
Woah, poop is a good name for an util
wait until you hear of libpipi
Oh hell naw
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Ugh, “gimp”? Seriously?
And the name isn’t great either.
You’re right. And it would be so simple to just drop the G and make it Image Manipulation Program. They could even use the same impish logo!
Good way to get Stallman to kill you
They could, but they never will though. Chiefly because someone asked them to and, after stamping their feet like Veruca Salt, the devs have resolved to never ever stop pouting about it.
Someone could fork it, with just a different name. 😆
Green is my pepper.
GNU Image Manipulation Program or GIMP