Transcript: With a picture of a snake in the background, post reads: The chances of a human being bitten by a venomous snake is 1 in 70 thousand.
The chances of a woman being attacked by a man is 1 in 3.
And somehow, your fear of snakes is valid. But a woman’s fear of male violence is dramatic.
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And yet the chances of a man to be attacked by a man is higher.
All fears are valid, but humans are bad at ranking them
Are you aware of the community you’re in? We aren’t really worried about men attacking other men in this conversation because this is a women’s only community.
The second sentence is the actual point. Other people have come up with even better comparisons
Why include the first then?
You’re being dismissive of a real danger women face.
The post is dismissive of a real danger too, that’s my point. Both are real
Men attacking other men isn’t a real danger to women.
We’re in a women’s only community. Must we center men in every single conversation we have?
I can’t find a single statistic to back that up. By the way, you sure you’re in the right community?
This is a well researched subject, plenty of studies have come up with that conclusion, it’s called the “gender fear paradox”
physical assault was more prevalent among men (3.7%) than women (2.6%)
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/260331/dq260331b-eng.htm
They mostly explain it by the fact that men take more risks and go at sketchy places alone that women tend to avoid
Men face a higher overall risk of general physical assault, primarily perpetrated by other men, whereas women experience vastly higher rates of sexual assault and intimate partner violence committed by men. General crime data indicates that men are more frequently victims of public and stranger violence, while women face disproportionate risks of domestic and sexual abuse. [1]
*In Canada
I’ll ask again, since you seem to miss details, you sure you’re in the right community?
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Can I just be upset that the snake used in the image is not venomous?
Right? Looks like a carpet python
Yea, some kind of python at least.
What are the stats about women being bitten by nonvenomous snakes?
both my wife & i have been bitten by our cornsnake, so at least in our house it’s 75% (i’m genderqueer)
While I don’t know that stat, I’ve heard from ER/first responder types and the majority of snake bite incidents are
- Men
- On the hand/forearm
- Alcohol was involved
So basically “Hold my beer, watch this” type situations.
That’s a good question. Last time I was near a venomous snake, it was not the least bit interested in me.
Apparently I have poor reading comprehension late at night. Bitten by non-venomous snakes? It has happened a few times. I don’t know how often it would occur though on average.
Falling appliances kill about twice as many people per year as sharks, but if you’re more afraid of a refrigerator than of a shark, a lot of people will definitely call you dramatic. Proximity is a huge factor in the likelihood of any given occurrence.
I would be scared of a falling refrigerator.
Likewise, I’d be scared of a shark that was right next to me, or a person chasing me with exposed genitalia, but a standing refrigerator or a person behaving normally is unlikely to suddenly fall or assault you. There’s still a chance, and you can and should still be aware of it and take appropriate precautions, but being on edge constantly is going to cause more issues that it solves.
or a person chasing me with exposed genitalia
This is an extremely inaccurate framing of sexual assault, rape, and violence.
Being aware of one’s surroundings and having some methods of avoidance and self defense are good for everyone.
I’m not saying that that’s the only kind of SA, of course. It was just an easy shorthand for likely imminent SA (and ongoing sexual harassment, for that matter).
Most SA and rape is committed by someone the victim knows, not some stranger chasing people with their dicks out.
Framing the danger women face from men as “a person chasing them with exposed genitalia” is dismissive and inaccurate. 1 in 3 women will face SA or rape in their lifetime. That isn’t an exaggeration.
I would be on edge around a falling shark.
The fact is, the man community has done a bad job representing itself to women. They keep choosing bad men like Trump and Musk to represent their community. The man community has completely failed to police its own members. That’s why it has a bad reputation.
You could say we have people like JK Rowling leading the “women’s community”, you can always cheery pick. There are good and bad people of all genders, and not everyone is in a community with others of the same gender as them.
And yet people talk about “the queer community” or “the black community” or “the Deaf community”. If minorities have to put up with that, majorities can put up with it too
I don’t think minorities should have to put up with it either. we are all individuals
I don’t think carrying around a venomous snake in your pocket is the solution OP. As badass as that may sound.
Okay, but how great would it be if someone decided to bathroom check me for being trans?
“What’s in your pants???”
“SNAKES!” unzips, medusa level asps pour out
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It certainly raises your odds above 1/70k.
I think you want to get as close to the seventy thousand as you can to ensure at least one is feeling bitey.
I’ve got a neighbor that’ll show up to street fairs and events with their snakes draped on their shoulders. It always looks so cool! Maybe we could work that in somehow and split the difference haha
is this a “preaching to the choir” thing? Most people here must disagree with violence against women just being"drama".
Are you trying to raise awareness?
Sometimes it’s preaching to the choir, some times its affirmation. shrug
Edit nvm, saw the debacle. Arf arf little sealion. Can’t have women having communities and discussions now, can we.
why don’t any of you want women having discussions and communities?
What is the sea lion thing, do you mean because you’re a sea lion you don’t like women?
It’s gonna be nice when Lady Butterfly has time to go through her mod notifications later :)
Me too, velma!
She seems to be level-headed and follows her own rules, unlike other members here who have mocked or insulted me for asking a question about your community.
Are the mocking and insults in the room with us?
yes, they’re available to read in this thread. You’ve all signed your names to your comments.
Oh no….
Anyway.
Managing all of this insufferable sealioning must be exhausting.
idk about marine life, but being attacked by you all for no reason isn’t very fun.
Why are you in this community?
Then fuckin leave.
You can view it as a “preaching to the choir” thing if you’d like.
You’re welcome to ignore posts that don’t resonate with you or topics you don’t want to comment on.
yes, that is how public forums work…hence my question.
If you don’t know the answer to a question, you don’t have to pretend to answer an ancillary concern nobody is asking about, it’s okay.
Yes, public forums usually have rules! hence it is recommended you read those before asking questions!
If you don’t know how to read the rules, you don’t have to pretend like you did! Nobody is asking for your opinion, its okay!
i won’t. i read the rules and understand the limited scope of your community. I’m not offering my opinion.
And I answered your question with an affirmative. It is kind of preaching to the choir.
No, you avoided answering my question by responding “you can view it as a” preaching to the choir" thing if you’d like", which is a negative response, not an affirmative.
Now you’ve amended your earlier response to provide an answer. No gas-fiddling on my watch, velma!
I personally view it as bringing up a relevant topic in this group, but that doesn’t mean it’s inaccurate to view it as “preaching to the choir”.
yea, both interpretations are correct.
That’s your alt account?
Arr you also Butterfly? I mean, you don’t have to get into that, but is that why you’re speaking for the OP?
Hey now you’ve crossed the line here. No, Wren and Lady Butterfly are not alt accounts. Women exist on the internet, I know it’s shocking.
Not anymore than you’re trying to troll.
You sure you know where you’re posting?
commenting? yea…it’s literally the same community you’re in right now.
I don’t get it. Are you trolling me?
Rules…
Women only… trans women are women, and transphobic or gender critical talk isn’t allowed. Anyone under the trans umbrella (e.g. non-binary, bigender, agender) is free to decide whether a women’s community is a good fit for them.
Don’t be a dick. No personal attacks, no aggression, play nice.
So you don’t follow the rules and then quote them at others?
you aren’t playing very nice.
If this community is not a good fit for you, why are you participating?
Am I not? Where have I been mean?
You are not. Rule 2.
It is aggressive of you to intrude into somebody else’s conversation in the first place,aggressive of you to speak for somebody else, and not nice for you to gaslight users.
Oh I’m aggressive AND mean now?
Hm.
Look, I’m all for this message, but these probabilities mean nothing without a reference - 1 in 3 of what? Per day for an average woman? Per year? Per encounter?
Especially the per encounter would be funny, since the average person rarely sees a snake, let alone a venomous one. And I imagine women usually meet at least three men a day…
Huh, thanks! Yknow, while this is still a horrible statistic, I’m kind of relieved it’s not 32% a year, that’d amount to a lot higher total
Keep in mind that this only counts the first occurrence. Women in abusive relationships will only count as 1 instance despite experiencing violence and/or sexual assault regularly over a long period of time. This is also likely an underestimate, as not everyone wants to admit that they were the victim of violence, and some of us get gaslit by others so hard that we no longer even believe we’re a victim at all—that it was somehow our fault.
Using probabilities, that would basically lead to 100% of women being assaulted within their lifetime. Its definitely not per year.
In some places it is that high. This is the average world wide.
Without a reference time period we can assume it’s within a lifetime.
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The difference is that men only produce metaphorical venom.
If we weren’t scared of snakes we’d get bitten way more often.
And yet women are often admonished for avoiding men.
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You missed the second part of that, the being called dramatic part. You sure this is the right community for you?
