• Jhex@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Carney: “The old order is not coming back” = provocative

    Trump: “I shit on the world and will take over a territory because I didn’t get a shiny medal” = Trump discusses international policy

    FUCK THE MAINSTREAM PRESS

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      The order that he referred to never truly existed. It just was never aimed at fellow Global North nations. Basically what Trump is doing is, for all practical purposes, the real reason why Hitler is (was?) the most hated human in recent history and not, say, Mussolini. Fascists like Mussolini directed their ambitions towards non-Western countries and never threatened fellow Europeans, so they all laughed at his big chin and bombastic movie-inspired poses (no joke, his famous stare and folding arms pose was taken from a 1916 or 1915 film). Hitler was originally supported by many European leaders and both liberals and conservatives. Why? Because as a fascist he fucking hated communism and had no problem massacring and/or imprisoning as many of them as possible. It wasn’t until he started being aggressive towards other European nations and bringing about the same colonial mentality home to Europe and treating Europeans the same way they treated Indians and Africans did they take a stand. (BTW, Hitler made no secret of this. He wrote it all in Mein Kampf. But then as now, most people never read the book. Churchill was someone who was confirmed to have read the book before Hitler came to power and was opposed to him from day 1).

      This is basically the same mentality that schoolyard bullies have and their enablers. When they attack the more awkward kids or anyone perceived as being different for any reason they don’t care. The moment those bullies start to make anything remotely offensive towards their enablers, however, that is when they lose their shit. My biggest weakness (as an autistic adult) is that I was lead to believe that when you grow up all those behaviors and people will be left behind and they also will change. This… is why it took me until I became middle aged to even BEGIN to have a career or some feeling of being taken seriously. My faith in simply being honest, straightforward, and having faith in others to have some basic curiosity or understanding was my undoing.

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        The order that he referred to never truly existed…

        You didn’t hear the speech, did you? Carney clearly says this in it. He goes in detail about how it was all smoke and mirrors and the countries that benefited from it, simply played along knowing full well it was a sham

        I, unfortunately, do agree with your statement… I wish we lived in a better world but that is not the case

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          I did hear most of it, including that part. I hated how he compared the ‘illusion’ to the slogan Workers of the World Unite! It pisses me off that I fear we will never truely be rid of that oligarch shit that has plagued society from the dawn of civilization.

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      What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

      Also NATO’s sec:

      Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

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        I doubt these are actually text messages sent to him from Macron, but possibly messages passed from Macron to a Trump lacky and then reinterpreted in a way Trump can read. No clue about SecGen.

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        There’s no way Trump understands screenshots. So at minimum, if true, the posting of these are a collaboration with a handler.

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      The texts:

      “My friend, We are totally in line on Syria. We can do great things on Iran. I do not understand what you are doing on Greenland."

      “Let us try to build great things, i can set up a g7 meeting after Davos in Paris on thursday afternoon. I can invite the ukrainians, the danish, the syrians and the russians in the margins. let us have a dinner together in Paris together on thursday before you go back to the us. Emmanuel.”

      The assumption is that he leaked them in response to an earlier quote from Macron:

      “We do prefer respect to bullies. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality.”

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    Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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      IIRC this question was seriously asked by Carney a little while back, and we can in all but name. I don’t think there will ever be a Canadian minister in the European Council but we could form trade networks that are basically the same as European nations with the caveat that there is the Atlantic ocean separating us.

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        I think what OP may also be asking for are travel benefits. As it stands, EU citizens with an EU passport have extremely powerful benefits when travelling within + outside the EU.

        I just wish we had an inter-ocean train…

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          We should all tell Carney to fast-track a 900 trillion dollar sub-ocean high speed rail tunnel.

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    It’s a good speech. He’d be a great prime minister if he weren’t so fond of fossil fuels, military spending (as opposed to actual defence,) and authoritarian bullshit in the name of security as exemplified in the infamous “border security” bill.

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      I think the border security bill was an initial attempt to placate the Orange Turd… I completely disagree with it anyway, but I am not sure it is part of what Carney would have done under different circumstances

      So far I am not finding myself agreeing with Carney too much but this speech was solid and some of the deals and partnerships coming up in the news have been pretty positive (at least with the info available)… so there is hope?

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        Dont have to imagine, just wait till next election. Pretty sure it’s only gunna get worse from here and it was too close for comfort this time.

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    Using words just big enough that Trump won’t understand what he’s saying. Smart.

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      Reminds me of a Trudeau speech just before he left. He spoke to Canadians and used typical 6th grade english politicians use when adressing very large audiences. Then he adressed Trump directly, looked right into the camera and immediately switched to mono syllabic caveman speech. I swear you could even see a suppressed smirk peek through. I laughed so hard and long I couldn’t hear what he actually said to him.