Some 1,500 active duty Army paratroopers have been put on alert for a potential deployment to Minnesota, according to two defense officials.

They’re ones who are trained and equipped for arctic warfare. This is kind of thing you do when planning to massacre civilians.

Edit: The Washington Post is now saying the same thing:

Pentagon readies 1,500 soldiers to possibly deploy to Minnesota, officials say

Soldiers with the Army’s 11th Airborne Division in Alaska have been placed at the ready following Trump’s Insurrection Act threat, according to defense officials.

      • hector@lemmy.today
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        Maybe you shouldn’t have anointed the most unpopular option for president running a status quo campaign against republicans running as reform, then blamed everyone else for not doing what they long made clear they wouldn’t do, vote for worthless status quo democrats perpetually. Not the least as Biden did NOTHING with his presidency.

        Still passing the buck, blaming everyone else. You knew she couldn’t win, forced her anyway, on a campaign you knew couldn’t win, and forced it anyway. Now blame everyone else to keep the same people that chose her in control to fail us all over again.

        It’s just unbelievable the arrogance of those of you that support the democratic party establishment. Disgraceful. You are the problem, not everyone else.

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          Biden was hands down the most progressive presidential administration in my lifetime. He did tons of little things that everybody - including actual leftists - really liked.

          But he will always only be remembered as the person who failed to hold Trump accountable, thus clearing the way for his second term.

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          She was a sold out corporatist running a status quo campaign. Not a popular one either, never breached 30 approval the entire term pre anointment. Disliked by both blacks and woman, not that that will stop you blaming bigotry, as if that would excuse throwing the election.

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            Thank god you avoided that mess am I right?

            Look I have no horse in this other than the fact that whatever happens with your fucked up country seems to spill over the rest of the world. Was she perfect? Hell no. Was she liked ? Hell no. Was she crazy and surrounded by crazier people? Also no.

            So I am not sure what is it you are trying to say but what I am saying is, having her would have avoided us being on the brink of collapse into another world war.

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              They ran status quo against reform, with the most unpopular choice they could find.

              One of the few that had approvals even lower than the r candidate, never breaching 30%.

              I can’t make it any easier to understand than that.

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                Ok and as responsible voters it would have been absolutely disastrous to vote for her instead of letting this orange baboon get in with a vengeance. I understand! Thank you!

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                  So it’s everyone else’s fault except for the people forcing an unwinnable strategy, got it.

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                  …Wait, why are you expecting responsibility from voters but not the heads of a full-on political party?

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      Remember the name of this author, who is an active Republican propagandist.

      Derek Hunter. May the leopards eat his face.

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      Seeing as the troops (different units I know but still.) obeyed the very much illegal Venezuela Raid I think it’s obvious what they are going to do if mobilized

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      People that comment about the civilians of Venezuela aren’t taking into account the psychology of those you know versus those you don’t. Firing on American civilians is going to be very different mind game, even for soldiers trained to kill. Being on home turf and having to actually destroy your own infrastructure and kill people you know have a culture the same as yours is different even if there are political differences. Hearing fellow soldiers screaming and crying for mom or help after being shot is a mind fuck in war, but then hearing civilians do it? Knowing you will go home and face people there that question whether you did it and then their treatment of you afterward is going to be a factor. Most are not career military…

      There will be those that do it, but I’m willing to put money on more soldiers that second guess, hesitate, or purposely miss if ordered to fire.

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      Like they complied with orders to shoot civilians in boats in the Carribean? Or do those not count?

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      You see, the majority of soldiers deployed will be guarding street corners, they will handpick the ones willing to open fire, bust heads, etc., then make special units of them for the wetwork type stuff. That is their plan, like they did in 2020 with that special unit they made to disappear people in portland, cherry picking assholes from the bureau of prisons.

      They will be nurturing paramilitaries too, no I am not referring to Ice which is a security service under control of the government and therefore not paramilitary even if militarized, but groups like the proud boys, 3 percenters, that they will nurture to attack critics and protesters and the like in ways they don’t want the security services’ goon squads to do directly. The police will go hard against anyone that fights back against them, give them a pass, share intelligence with them, etc.

      These deployments they are just testing the waters and setting precedents, with 2028 in mind. With permanently fixing elections in mind.

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    They’re ones who are trained and equipped for arctic warfare.

    So that one guy slipping on ice really sent a message, but not protests? Figures.

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      From experience, artic warfare is more about wearing snow shoes than walking on ice. The rubber boots and thick socks don’t do much for ice but they make walking back to Wheeler Sacks more comfortable after a week of sleeping in a snow drift.

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    Anyone who thinks these soldiers will do anything other than exactly what they’re ordered is thinking more than a little wishfully

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      Yeah, if President Pedo and his DUI hire says to murder American civilians most of them will follow that order because that’s what they’ve been trained to do with more than a handful gleefully carrying it out because they’re also MAGA.

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    Those soldiers better remember the US Constitution is the number one priority and not following illegal orders is lawful.

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      Just like they did when murdering people “smuggling drugs” without trial and invading Venezuela?

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      At this point I think it is distraction. Notice that if he actually intends on doing something he just does it (giving Russia edge over Ukraine, Venezuela etc).

      If that’s not his choice, but wants to distract media (hello Epstein) he just talks about it (for example aid to Ukraine, help to Iranians).

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        2 weeks. Those things will be done in 2 weeks.

        Always 2 weeks. Never ever done, but 2 weeks.

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        He telegraphed intent to attack Venezuela for months before actually sending the military to kidnap their president.

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          That’s because to do the mission he needed to get snug Navy present there. He used drug snuggling smuggling as an excuse. And that took few months.

          Notice that once mission was performed now the drugs are no longer a problem.

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      Could be; both are utterly illegal and any soldier who follows an order to attack either deserves to be prosecuted

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        Prosecuted? Maybe. Summary execution, definitely. They aren’t soldiers. Soldiers took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Anyone attacking civilians and protestors is just a regular old fashioned mass murderer.

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        I don’t think it’s so black and white. A lot of those soldiers are barely surviving and their money feeds their kids. Enlisted don’t have the luxury of disobeying orders blindly, that law is applicable to the officers issuing them.

        Having said that, as a vet, I would do malicious incompetence and sabotage our mission in “incompetent” ways as much as possible. Also, I would never open fire on innocent civilians no matter what.

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          Sorry but levying war against the United States is the one crime laid out in the Constitution. Don’t Do It.

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              They know full well they’re going to Minnesota to kill a bunch of people for…blowing whistles.

              Right move in that situation is ro refuse.

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                You’re ignoring the nuance, which is a weapon of Maga, so be better. The orders don’t say kill them. It says “go and maintain order”. Politics aside, they think they are the good guys. Many of them don’t have a clue that they’re being used as puppets to escalate the fascist takeover.

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                I don’t think they do know that. How many brainwashed people have you met yourself? Have you listened to any Fox News coverage - what would someone who trusts that outlet believe?

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                  I have met a lot of both active duty and retired service members. Not a single one of them would follow such an order.

                  Have you ever met a United States service member?

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          I don’t think it’s so black and white.

          Legal Eagle did a video about this. Ultimately an American soldier is liable for carrying out illegal orders. Refusing illegal orders is extremely complicated, but carrying them out is still illegal and they are subject to the law. It doesn’t matter if they were “just following orders”.

          https://youtu.be/wkaS3-9WvM8

          Edit: spelling