The worst and most stupid bit is this:

Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are “suffering from this, frankly, more than we are.”

He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”

Vance continued:"As much as we’ve got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they’re feeling it far worse than we did because we’ve taken the steps to protect our energy economy.

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    “allies” are more likely to have renewable power sources than the US…and functional, widespread public transport systems

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    Wait, so the person who aligned himself with an obese orange painted child rapist and narcissistic pathological liar doesn’t know what he’s talking about? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

    I think I’m immediately going to go outside and smash up my solar panels, my battery system, and my heatpump. No, scratch that, I’ll drive my electric car over everything.
    Then I’ll go and import a massive Ford F1CUNT mobile and roll moles!!

    Or not. It’s a tricky one…

    I mean, yesterday we ran our entire house for free, charged the car for free, and exported a few quid of electricity back in to the grid…but, yes, oil and gas is definitely better for me and the climate.
    Yes, I know not everyone can’t do what we’ve done but the quicker everyone can get away from fossil fuels the better.

    So FUCK OFF, COUCH FUCKING PAEDO ENABLER!
    I hope you americans will hold this prick to account once the kiddie fiddling nonce finally dies.

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    I have questions.

    What steps did they take? They didn’t take any steps.

    Who’s hurting more? The gas prices in US has increased by 50%. I don’t see that anywhere else. This is partially because we already pay a lot more in fixed taxes, so the gas prices alone doesn’t cause the same kind of spikes. Of course we still pay more for it as usual, but the current increase of about 10% doesn’t hurt us as much as it hurts the Americans.

    What green energy scams is he talking about? Green energy works. I wouldn’t call it a stable price, as it fluctuates like the wind, but on average I’m paying less for charging my car than I did last year, and I’m expecting the price to drop. It was always cheaper than gas per milage, still is and certainly will be even more so in the future. Big scam huh.

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    This war is probably the most effective way to promote green energy. Similar to how Windows fucking up is the best way to promote Linux. People have to suffer before attempting different solutions 💀

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      It truly should be a learning experience. But I genuinely don’t think Republicans in the US are capable of learning anything, especially not something as narratively inconvenient as this.

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    Other aspects are already addressed in the comments, but this:

    He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”

    It doesn’t even make sense: US attacking Iran affects fossil fuel delivery; countries that focus more on green energies are more resilient to such crises, not less.

    In my EU country fuel prices rose noticeably ~12%. How much in the USA?

    And if JD refers to Germany’s over-reliance in Russian gas (which isn’t very green anyhow): That’s the pot calling the kettle black. The US have already lifted sanctions on Russian oil amid this war.

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    vance is a pathological liar. quite obvious just look at how often he makes these trivially refuted lies.

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    Our infrastructure isn’t completely built around cars. We have proper public transportation, walking and cycling infrastructure. The best in the world actually. I don’t need gas or oil to cycle. And my electricity is made by windmills and solar panels.

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      I don’t need gas or oil to cycle.

      Well, technically, it really helps to have a teensy bit to lubricate your bicycle’s bearings. But that’s all.

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        I use wax lube now (and really recommend it) except in winter, so even less so!

        Oh you said bearings, yes, definitely. Pre coffee mistake

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    Hoii! Uh… no? Actually we’re chilling considering most cars /trucks here are ran on diesel but realistically most long range shipments are done via freight trains cuz they’re way more efficient :P Also yes it’s not affecting us the people either as we have public transit ^^

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    For anyone who don’t know, the US is the largest oil producer in the world, more than double any other country. So that’s the reason prices aren’t going up as much as they may be elsewhere, but also what that means is that when we attack Iran us oil company stocks skyrocket. People pay more, billionaires reap, hedge funds reap, the military industrial complex reaps. War as a service.

    https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/War_economy

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      Oil prices are pretty global. If you look at the prices for European oil (Brent crude) and US oil (West Texas Intermediate), then they are $14 apart. Which is not nothing, but WTI is still up by 63% from pre-war. That is still going to hurt the US economy, a lot.

      Also, in the US the oil price windfall is privatized, while the oil price pain is socialized. So the US will still feel almost the full pain.

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      Let’s not forget all the Venezuelan oil that the execs said was to expensive to drill, higher price might just make it lucrative.

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        We have tons of untapped oil fields easier to drill in the US that oil companies are sitting on, and we already get something like 1/3 of Venezuelan oil as is

        But we still need the oil from the middle east, we mix our heavier oil with theirs in the refining process. We’re draining our reserves to keep the price low domestically, that and the statements that the strait will be reopened imminently is keeping the price relatively low… For now. Our economy is all speculation after all.

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          We have tons of untapped oil fields

          But that is likely irrelevant for the timescale of this conflict, right? Surely the lead time for bringing new oil fields online is measured in years.

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      7 hours ago

      Didn’t know WaaS was a thing. This timeline is just asS.

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    So how bad is it? We had 1.7€/l before this and like 1.9€/l now -> 11,7% rise

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      It is not just at the pump. The whole supply chain depends on oil. Industrial processes, plastics, fertilizer.

      The price rise at the pump is often masked by taxes. The percentage jump for industry will be larger.

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      Where I am the petrol went from 1.8€/l to 2.1€/l that’s a 16% rise and diesel went from 1.7€/l to 2.4€/l that’s a 41% rise.

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      It’s not good but it’s bearable. What’s happening in the USA is definitely worse than what’s happening here, in every respect.