Ive actually begun to lie to my coworkers less
100%, and bald-faced lie about your private life; if you just say “none of your business” or “that’s private”, you’ve “earned” another enemy.
For many years I was honest, and I kept suffering for it. Just say whatever the fuck they want you to and go home. You don’t owe them anything and they will lie to you through their teeth.
Over thirty years in work force.
Stay friendly with the biggest clique and smile. We’re all a big family!
Sounds like a great way to lower over all class cohesion and worker solidarty, making a union less likely.
And this is why ive started to lie less. That and just general bonding, at least with people who seem nice
It’s morally correct to lie to your coworkers and bosses. Especially your bosses.
Lie about work? No.
Lie about anything else? Absolutely. My coworkers have no claim on the truth of anything related to me that’s not related to work.
I keep private things private, but I don’t lie.
This is a very principled stance, but it’s also a very career-limiting one. Your coworkers (and, worse, bosses) hate people who tell them “mind your own business” (no matter how politely said).
Why stop at coworkers?
I dont like lying, but i really have to keep my job and remaining favorable with everyone is a surefire way to do that.
Declining to share all personal details is not the same as lying. I don’t lie but am very intentional with the personal information I share.
My department are all the same type of nerds that I am so they know everything.
Everyone outside of my department gets the corporate sanitized version of everything.
If you have views that are in the minority and not directly related to your task at work it is smarter to keep those to yourself in my opinion. Lying is optional. Its just easier for them to perceive me as the quiet guy who keeps to himself.
I am not a capitalist. Telling my bosses that I view a large portion of our work as simply and needlessly extracting excess money and labor from individuals isnt going to advance my career and is unlikely to result in anyone changing their worldview. It is more likely to mean im passed over for a promotion.
It depends.
I lie about my alternative lifestyle activities and I dance around my political beliefs depending on the topic.
I’m honest about work itself and how I feel if they utter any slurs or bigoted beliefs.
I dance around my political beliefs too, but thats only bc im under threat of starvation and honelessness. But then again, thats why i lie at all. Its easier and safer to coast instead of being weird or disruptive to their norm and i have no safety net
I wish people around me would talk about politics. Everyone is so apathetic towards it all, let me rant about anarchism!
“Bring your full self to work” is a lie and people WILL use it against you. I dont “lie” but i sure as hell dont reveal any more than i have to
I don’t lie, I’ve never been good at it, but I don’t elaborate. If I’m asked something I don’t want to answer I say I’m not discussing that here.
There’s a 98% respected rule to not discuss politics. Management states they’d prefer we don’t because it upsets the clientele and it’s irrelevant to the workplace.
However, every couple years there’s that one person who cannot read the room and loudly talks politics to the quiet people around her she thinks are listening but who are instead cringing as they wait for her to stop talking.
I’m honest I just don’t engage with workplace drama. If I don’t know then I can’t lie.
My entire company has 13 people in it total. Any drama involves every single one of us somehow. My conr coworker is transfem and Teamsed the incel bigoted coworker messages about how the hrt is making her boobs big and sensitive. Ofc that was reported and now we have to do extra trainings and we can’t edit or delete teams messages and our boss reads every single message. We are also doing some dumbass DISC assessment to see how we can work better together because my trans coworker threatened to quit. This team building shot is not going to change anything. Getting rid of problematic employees is the best solutions, but this place never fired people for anything and it’s dumb
I avoid drama like the plague too but sometimes lying is the easiest way to accomplish that
That’s true, too. People really need to stop asking follow up questions.
So we’re glorifying paranoia now?
The hell does this have to do with paranoia?
The post was probably purposefully written to be very assertive about lying to bring up strong emotions while being very vague about when to lie so your mind can fill in the blanks about what to ascribe that strong emotional response to. This promotes engagement because you can have multiple conversations going on in the responses where folks are arguing against each other talking about different things while believing they are talking about the same thing. In short, it’s ragebait.
My first thought reading the post was that drama can start if you give an honest opinion that clashes with someone else’s. If I go looking for paranoia I think one could say that lying to your coworkers means you do not trust them. Many people spend a large chunk of their life at work, so one could believe that coworkers are likely to make up a large chunk of the people in your life. From those pieces it could then be said that not trusting a large chunk of the people in your life would make you paranoid. Therefore, it is paranoia to lie to your coworkers and advocating for that lying is advocating for that paranoia.
But I don’t know, I don’t live in Tattorack’s head.
Jesus Christ, did you use AI to write all that??
Uh no, I tried using AI to write something once and it was about the ickiest I’ve felt at a computer. I just like justifying my thinking with words.
Well you write suspiciously like an AI. But I guess they got their training data from the Internet, after all…
Needing to lie to a large group of people assumes malice from said large group of people. There’s no reason to tell your co-workers every detail of your life, but there’s absolutely no need to lie about the things you do unless you have reason to believe they’re out to get you.
Needing to lie to a large group of people assumes malice from said large group of people.
How did you build the bridge across that leap in logic?
I can see the logic, especially if we’re assuming the person who feels they need to lie isn’t doing something wrong. Though that’s mostly because I can’t think of a scenario in which people get angry or create problems because of a refusal to discuss certain topics or an innocent truth without malice (or completely out of line nosiness).
I can’t tell if I’m lacking in imagination or if I’m just more comfortable associating extreme nosiness with malice, though.
That is not a leap in logic, but considering your response I’m questioning the kind of person you are.
The kind of person who tries to make sense?
By the way, are you following the rules of this community?
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