I hope it’s just a joke
I’m thoroughly convinced UI designers are under the impression we cut ourselves on sharp corners.
in a few years they will suddenly forget it and it will be all sharp corners again
Bring back more drop shadows and skeuomorphism
I hope I can live enough to see that.
I just updated my Jetbrains Rider IDE and holy border radius batman.
There is way too much white-space in this design. I’m tired of getting higher resolution displays only to lose that resolution to applications that get chunkier.
Old Firefox looked perfectly fine. I don’t know why they keep wasting so many resources on changing something that already worked.
Because aesthethics also change through the years. You have to make your product appealing to today’s standards.
While this may be true for commercial products and services, Firefox was never supposed to be one.
Every software application Is a commercial product itself. The more appealing, the more users and thus relevance…
Argh, yet another userchrome.css overhaul to do.
Wow look at those default screenshots. They look horrible, what a mess.
A useless sidebar, a lot of mess in the homepage, stupid shit being pushed to you.
Everytime i install Firefox i need to do a huge config setup to remove all that useless crap
Guarantee you can turn off the sidebar. They already have this and it can be disabled. Why not use it for three seconds? I despise the Mozilla NGO stuff ruining Firefox but this is utterly benign. Dynamic colors are cute and fun.
Guarantee you can turn off the sidebar.
You can. For now.
They already have this and it can be disabled. Why not use it for three seconds?
Because every now and again, it’s a new three seconds. First it was the password manager. Then Sync. Then Monitor. Then AI chatbot.Before all of that it was a bunch of other things. Then it was the side tabs. _You gotta check them out!* Now it’s this.
For me as well, I need to use the firefox profile creator website to get rid of all these things. It takes a good few minutes to configure. But for someone who may not know about the website? At least half an hour to thoroughly go through Preferences, and most things aren’t even there!
Dynamic colors are cute and fun.
Sure!
Until you try putting them on an old laptop. Because why would anyone be using an old laptop in
20252026? And then, how dare they expect to be able to browse the web? (Because static sites to download useful stuff apparently don’t exist, nor do people who’d like to do that which don’t know about curl).This isn’t just a Firefox problem, it’s a global one. Instead of functionality, what’s preferred is aesthetics. Instead of accessiblity, how accessible able people feel it is. Instead of performance, bloat.
Most of these things could be optional, Firefox Approved First-party add-ons or integrations, but this isn’t the route this timeline has taken.
You can. For now.
my god you’re right, they’ve sold out to Big Sidebar. the problem with their Sync is that it has no self-hostable e2ee option and you need to use Firefox servers that use Google stuff. comparing apples and rotten oranges most of this is silly
Yeah, because for Windows, when you accidentally hover over the weather widget for 0.5 ms longer than some programmer decided will force you to connect to MSN.
Mozilla is clearly immune to analytics and took a hard stance that didn’t and will never change, so pardon me for entertaining your thought.
And there’s just no way the Sync icon becomes an auto-opening popup (possibly in the Sidebar), because the designers won’t come up with the brilliant idea.
- Hey, how can we make the numbers seem like more people are using MSN (or Sync)?
- Just open it whenever an unlucky soul hovers over it accidentally. They have 50ms to run across it if they really don’t want to use it!
- Wow, what a great idea!
This talk at M$ can never happen at Mozilla, from what we’ve seen in the past 5+ years.
Given with Mozilla’s recent track record, it just might.
This isn’t ideologcal creep that can be forestalled by purism and hatred of sidebars 😭 the corporate side of Mozilla with push that stuff whether or not you complain about the occasional good thing they do. Please get a grip
One of the most irritating things about their management is these delays, the worst of which can be seen with Thunderbird/Betterbird situation. Community has been waiting years for shit that was already fixes to be added & they won’t add QA testers
AFAIK, Thunderbird isn’t a Mozilla product anymore. They are an independent team.
Ah thx right right I forgot how it’s all laid out now exactly, it really is a similar way of handling feedback + contributions though. I’ve taken some space from those discussions since they straight up wormhole me back to a bad emotional place 🤣 I wasted so much effort on Mozilla as a kid, it was like a direct transition from video game forums + modding
I know it’s not the designers’ fault (at least not completely).
They’re part of the problem - mostly a symptom. The only real sin they’ve done is tried to keep their job - which I can’t really blame them for. But it is a shame it harms users as a consequence.
But I see no problem in bashing bad design, because if no one does, Corporate is gonna continue doing what they do. People need to speak about their wishes. Sure, most won’t be heeded, but what other way do you suggest for me (and most others in the thread) to do? Like this we at least have our little echo chamber to shit in.
It’s not about the sidebar, but what it represents. It’s a symptom of a larger problem - one you’ve correctly identified, yet do nothing about. I’m at least being a brat about it. Maybe if enough people complain, someone “in power” might get an idea as well.
I would argue this kind of blanket condemnation of Mozilla Doing Anything could be used by the Google opps in the org to justify adding more “premium features” that make money (but really don’t) instead of improving the goddamned browser and convince them we are not worth considering anyways, which WILL kill the browser. The default launcher on one of my ereaders has a fucking dead Pocket button and you think I’m not pissed off at this lol
Yeah, because for Windows, when you accidentally hover over the weather widget for 0.5 ms longer than some programmer decided will force you to connect to MSN.
I guarantee the programmer wasn’t the one who made the decision there lol
I used the side bar constantly in work as ive usually got 6 million tabs open. You can collapse it, and its off by default.
Agreed, never asked for the side bar, never gonna use it.
Believe it or not, they make the browser not just for you. I don’t use the sidebar either, but a colleague uses nothing but the sidebar.
God forbid the most unresponsive software dev group standardize a feature remade 4+ different ways by the community, years late
Its already in Firefox. Its disabled by default. They’re just showing what it looks like.
No, it’s enabled by default when you install Firefox :(
Straight to jail?
I prefer standardized OS wide appearances that are respected by all apps. The only skinning I want are Dark Modes or Mini Player modes (for media players).
oh please no. i fucking hate having to edit my userchrome on every updates…
Hmmm, I think it needs more rounded corners and padding. - UI designer in 2026
again??? why???
Designers need a reason to exist. So instead of doing user surveys and making new, modular themes (so you can choose the redesign), they scrap everything every few years so they have something to do. Because apparently modularity is hard.
Wtf are the symbols on the left?
- Display?
- Sparkles? (bookmark groups?)
- Star (bookmarks in the current ui)
- Time
FFS I miss drop down menus with text options instead of hieroglyphics.
Sparkles? (bookmark groups?)
Sparkles icon means stochastic parrot (already in current Firefox)
Thanks. And fuck. I guess you can remove it from the menus. So there’s that. Relegate that shit to extensions if you have to.
Looks identical to Opera browser theme.
Actually, I have round edges. The reason I still prefer Firefox is its squarish design looks more professional and authentic. Anyway Mozilla will never add any features that users wish to have but actively changes unnecessary things. Anyway good luck Mozilla!
Please don’t AI…
Golly I can’t wait.
But could they get rid of the spy shit first?
Seems like Mozilla is still too rich if they can afford complete redesign of their product every 3 years. Let’s hope the lepton ui fix will continue to work, I might have to up my donation there…
Again?
