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    People who believe in Qanon conspiracies with a liberal bent

    QAnon is fantasy fiction mythology. It is not fact-based science. It appeals to meme cultists who are attracted to Spiderman, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and other fiction addictions. Cult addicts to fiction. Who adore Truth Social Donald Trump because he is a fiction fantasy storyteller. Anti-science anti-reality.

     

    Left vs. Right

    I do not support all the mindsets of 1-bit binary bi-polar thinking of “left vs. right”. The terms “right-wing” and “left-wing” originated in France during the French Revolution in 1789. King of France: Right-wing Bible Jesus fiction fantasy storytelling of God from the Levant year 1789.

    • “Quant à moi, je ne vois pas dans la religion le mystère de l’incarnation, mais le mystère de l’ordre social; elle rattache au ciel une idée d’égalité qui empêche que le riche ne soit massacré par le pauvre. La religion est encore une sorte d’inoculation ou de vaccine qui, en satisfaisant notre amour du merveilleux, nous garantit des charlatans et des sorciers: les prêtres valent mieux que les Cagliostro, les Kant et tous les rêveurs d’Allemagne.” - March 4, 1806 as reported in Opinions de Napoléon sur divers sujets de politique et d’administration, recueillies par un membre de son conseil d’état.

    The real concern is fiction vs. nonfiction. Fox News HDTV is fiction. Reddit cult is fiction addicts. Twitter cult is Elon Musk fiction addicts. Etc. Truth Social is fiction fantasy media. MAGA church fiction fantasy leadership. Israel Torah fiction fantasy leadership.

    • “The boys learn the Quran by heart, rocking back and forth as they recite. They learn that there is no such thing as science or literature, that dinosaurs never existed and man never went to the moon.” ― Malala Yousafzai, I Am Malala: The Story of the Girl Who Stood Up for Education and Was Shot by the Taliban. Non-fiction book published October 8, 2013.
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      In no way I adore Trump or any other neoliberal US leader, you’re strawmanning because you narrative falls apart if I’m not a trump fanatic

      Russiagate, the Steele dossier are also fiction, you’re addicted to them and adore their liberal proponents

      You need to be critical of all leaders especially in the US

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        the Steele dossier are also fiction

        I never once mentioned it. That’s your mental programming. You are projecting from your mind. I never once have mentioned it in all my Lemmy postings for years.

        you’re addicted to them and adore their liberal proponents

        I quote Carl Sagan multiple times on this posting. I notice you keep avoiding it. Your “liberal vs. conservative” brain-rot.

        Jesus Believers = Conservative. Science Fact-based teachings of Carl Sagan is what I keep citing and asserting. Stable books printed on paper from year 1995. Non meme-think memes of the week club addict thinking.

        You need to be critical of all leaders especially in the US

        I am critical of gullible Lemmy users and Reddit users and Bluesky users and Twitter users and Facebook users and TikTok users and YouTube users and Fox News HDTV viewers who believe fiction because they can’t face their addictions to: Sponge Bob, Lord of the Rings, Spider-Man, Star Wars, Jesus fantasy, The Apprentice, memes decorations, McDonald’s advertising, content from students of Edward Bernays, content from students of Vlad Surkov, etc. Meme format addicts. Anything meme-shaped We The People accept and program into our mind.

         

        You need to be critical of all leaders especially in the US

        ANYTHING but follow Dr. Bandy X Lee (a GenX smart woman), a leader of 27 people since year 2017. All media addicts who LOL laugh at Donald Trump’s brain for comedy and jokes about Trump mental health day in and day out on their meme devices on meme apps. Anti-science comedy meme addicts USA year 2026. All the joke-washing comedy-wrapping humor-mocking of Trump’s mental disorders for laughs and popularity (and profit in media).

         

        Bandy X Lee: Gaslighting, Crazy

        Gaslighting

        Often, people with NPD resort to an insidious strategy called gaslighting — a term drawn from the 1938 play about a man who persuaded his wife she was crazy by, among other means, dimming the gaslights and claiming he’d never touched them. As people with NPD become increasingly psychotic, they’re determined to convince others that they’re the “crazy” ones who can’t see reality for what it is. Gaslighting reassures pathological narcissists that their own grip on reality remains firm because they can’t bear to acknowledge their sanity is slipping away. We might ask if we’re seeing this now, as Trump and his closest advisers appear on TV claiming he didn’t make statements that journalists often simply play back — or if it’s a tweet, flash an image — to prove that he did indeed say what he said.

        Lately, these incidents have become commonplace. Many in the press and public at large now refer to them as alternative facts, alluding to Trump spokesperson Kellyanne Conway’s now infamous “explanation” for why Sean Spicer had berated the press for misreporting Trump’s inauguration size: “this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe,” Spicer peevishly told a stunned press corps. This turned out to be patently false, though Conway defended the statement, saying Spicer had simply been providing “alternative facts.”

        Those who embrace Trump’s reality, where the mainstream media lies and remains “the enemy,” signify their support with red hats bearing the inscription MAGA (Make America Great Again). Those who believe what the news reports about Trump have donned the symbol of resistance — pink pussy hats, a reference to his now infamous hot mic comments about women, “I just grab ’em by the pussy…”

        That the country is currently split — and our shared reality with it — seems without question at this point.

        ― Bandy X Lee, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President. October 3, 2017. Page 58.

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          I mentioned the Steele dossier as an example of BlueQ/BlueAnon conspiracy theory, but you a clearly believing at least some version of ‘russiagate’:

          Do you know of Trump and Putin meeting in Alaska August 15, 2025 - their long-standing mutual admiration? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Russia–United_States_summit

          I mentioned several times in my comment the private jet flight on November 8, 2013 - which comes before the “that article about Putin from 2013” - have you studied the flight records and owner of the private jet?

          Timing. November 8, 2013 weekend Trump goes to Moscow. December 2013, the linked article discusses new International movement and “Call to power” all across the world. February 20, 2014 is when the Ukraine hot war started. After the softening up (of minds on WWW) by the Internet Research Agency almost all of year 2013.

          The December 20, 2013 article starts “Vladimir Putin is calling on the conservatives of the world to unite — behind him.” - Do you understand that Donald Trump is a world leader conservative?

          If not what did you mean to imply by all that if not ‘Trump is working with/for Putin’?

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            What did you mean to imply by all that if not ‘Trump is working with/for Putin’?

            What I mean to imply

            1. App users are low-information voters. Year 1991 terminology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_information_voter

            2. USA population has come to fill their minds with memes and fiction entertainment

            3. Donald Trump is an entertainer.

            4. Donald Trump is easily influenced and gullible. He believes fiction storytelling put out by the Kremlin

            5. Donald Trump is not very smart. And We The People on meme apps are not very smart.

            6. The entire USA society (We The People) avoid facts, timelines, details in favor of dumb memes and ignorance.

            This is a shit-posting nation who is addicted to Rupert Murdoch media, Elon Musk Twitter thinking patterns, and prizes knowledge about Sponge Bob, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, and Donald Trump is a fantasy fiction storyteller who entertains We The People with Truth Social memes (fiction content).

            USA was not this ignorant before July 6, 2011 https://theoutline.com/post/2445/trump-s-first-real-tweet-was-on-july-6-2011 - now everyone celebrates ignorance. Dr. Bandy X Lee’s 27 leaders have been ignored by We The People since year 2017. Instead people are learning more about Spider-Man and sports baseball players. Trump is a celebrity television entertainer.

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              Yep some app users aren’t very smart for sure.

              Some haven’t even considered that not every user is a yanqui for example.

              Donald Trump is easily influenced and gullible. He believes fiction storytelling put out by the Kremlin

              True but he also believes the last person he spoke to not just Putin exclusively, he believes the fiction put out by the UAF and his own government

              This is a shit-posting nation who is addicted to Rupert Murdoch media, Elon Musk Twitter thinking patterns, and prizes knowledge about Sponge Bob, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, and Donald Trump is a fantasy fiction storyteller who entertains We The People with Truth Social memes (fiction content).

              True, what’s your prescription for the problem? I’m guessing anything other than socialist organising and eventual revolution?

              Dr. Bandy X Lee’s 27 leaders have been ignored by We The People since year 2017.

              At least you’re paying attention to psychiatrists

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                Some haven’t even considered that not every user is a yanqui for example.

                Yes, they do consider it. World Wide Web, TCP/IP is everywhere. But you think tiny-short commenting messages (anti-book) should focus on banal and unimportant superficial aspects instead of the serious problem of USA being a mob mentality nation (since July 6, 2011 or June 16 Bloomsday 2015 depending on measure) ready to wreck the entire world. for laughs and memes. Shit-commenting mockery social values.

                To you, everything is Lemmy commenting in the moment, fixated on your target fixation. The crisis is the forest, not me the tree.

                The Emperor Has No Clothes and We The People are laughing non-stop, amused and joking endlessly in feedback loops at the naked emperor. The blind faith that the entire world is adopting that sarcasm, satire, mocking, mockery will always fix problems. The never-questioned religion of meme faiths, always more LOL mockery.

                 

                • “Everything in our background has prepared us to know and resist a prison when the gates begin to close around us . . . But what if there are no cries of anguish to be heard? Who is prepared to take arms against a sea of amusements? To whom do we complain, and when, and in what tone of voice, when serious discourse dissolves into giggles? What is the antidote to a culture’s being drained by laughter?” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business.
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                  I’m just trying to get direct answer to my questions I’ve put to you. you seem to think I won’t notice the deflection if you post enough tangential information.

                  To you, everything is Lemmy commenting in the moment, fixated on your target fixation. The crisis is the forest, not me the tree.

                  Why do you think this about me specifically?

                  The blind faith that the entire world is adopting that sarcasm, satire, mocking, mockery will always fix problems.

                  So you’re not even reading my responses in whole, I’ve put forward concrete actions to reverse the anti-intellectualism. You keep posting appeals to authority and no actual plans of actions, beyond magical thinking.

                  quantity != quality

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                    you seem to think I won’t notice the deflection if you post enough tangential information.

                    You seem to think tiny-short commenting messages are all about you you you and your egoism.

                    You keep posting appeals to authority

                    That’s your thought-terminating cliche phrase. “Appeal to authority” magic words nullifies experts. Stephen Alfred Gutknecht quoted Neil Postman books from year 1985, so can’t listen to matching ideas, because the magic phrase “appeal to authority” nullifies it! Stephen Gutknecht appealed to books printed on paper and not screen-game interactive commenting! That nullifies ideas!

                     

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                    “How a distrust of experts is shaping government policy under Trump”
                    August 8, 2025 4:17 PM ET
                    By Selena Simmons-Duffin, Domenico Montanaro
                    https://www.npr.org/2025/08/08/nx-s1-5494569/how-a-distrust-of-experts-is-shaping-government-policy-under-trump
                    “President Trump and members of his administration have often expressed a distrust of science and experts. That distrust is now helping to shape policies in several areas of government, from vaccines and health care to trade and the economy.”

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                True, what’s your prescription for the problem?

                halt all entertainment. Reminder: this Lemmy posting is about Las Vegas, slot machines. Which is why I brought up Trump, MAGA, Trumpism as an associated topic. Looping entertainment.

                • “We like to think of ourselves as immune from influence or our cognitive biases, because we want to feel like we are in control, but industries like alcohol, tobacco, fast food, and gaming all know we are creatures that are subject to cognitive and emotional vulnerabilities. And tech has caught on to this with its research into “user experience,” “gamification,” “growth hacking,” and “engagement” by activating ludic loops and reinforcement schedules in the same way slot machines do. So far, this gamification has been contained to social media and digital platforms, but what will happen as we further integrate our lives with networked information architectures designed to exploit evolutionary flaws in our cognition? Do we really want to live in a “gamified” environment that engineers our obsessions and plays with our lives as if we are inside its game?” ― Christopher Wylie, Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America, chapter 12 “Revelations”, page 235, year 2019

                 

                Same Page, The Same Time

                1. Repeat Dr. Lee’s books, articles and videos

                2. Repeat Marshall McLuhan and Neil Postman

                Stop creating new content. Get all on the same page and actually stand up to the feedback looping between We The People and Donald Trump ultra-star entertainer. All get on the same page at the same time and teach cult deprogramming.

                Put aside sports, entertainment films, entertainment television, video games, etc. Be serious. Stop the total mockery. Looping of Trump mocking audience and audience mocking Trump. Sober up as a nation. come to terms that Donald Trump was a mistake in year 1985, year 1995, year 2005, year 2015, year 2025. What changed was feedback looping between television news (Fox News), internet culture (July 6, 2011 onward https://theoutline.com/post/2445/trump-s-first-real-tweet-was-on-july-6-2011 ), and Trump is a master of standing in the spotlight of any and all media systems. Face up to media addictions being MAGA Trumpism.

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                  So basically just hoping that the US ruling class will start following the ideas of your favourite psychiatrist? because why, out of the goodness of their hearts?

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                    So basically just hoping that the US ruling class will start following the ideas of your favourite psychiatrist?

                    No, not at all. We The People are drunk on Trump content. Meme drunk nation. We The People need to address media addiction. Neil Postman, Marshall McLuhan, etc. Dr. Bandy X Lee is a leader of 27 people. you mock her as only one person. Your mocking is the problem. Anti-intellectual, Anti-book printed on paper. Lover of Trump mocking tone and anti-learning.

                    Again: NO, not at all. We the People on meme apps are the crisis. Ignorance. Celebration of Ignorance, celebrating Trump as ignorance laughs. LOL LOL at Trumps mental disorders in waves of electric media feedback looping, constantly waiting on meme apps for the next Trump entertainment stimulation. Every media system of every medium converged into mocking and mockery singularity. Chucklehead nation of meme addicts, age 12 to age 125, all inclusive, voter and nonvoters all anti-intellectual celebrating ignorance.

                     

                    Celebration of Ignorance

                    “Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a (year 1995) foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. As I write, the number-one videocassette rental in America is the movie Dumb and Dumber. “Beavis and Butthead” remain popular (and influential) with young TV viewers. The plain lesson is that study and learning — not just of science, but of anything — are avoidable, even undesirable.” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, 1995, page 59

                    year 1995 media 10-second sound bites == year 2025 Bluesky and Twitter media reaction comments / images.

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                True but he also believes the last person he spoke to not just Putin exclusively

                My concern is about app users. Not just one single person. But the attraction people have to Donald Trump.

                People have massive recency bias in USA. The anti-FAQ anti-Wiki values of constantly scrolling memes that overwrites any sense of self-awareness of media addiction. Teachers like Marshall McLuhan and Neil Postman are forgotten, abandoned, not understood.

                Trump is a symptom of app addiction. He is not the cause. The Internet Research Agency triggered a runaway reactionary mindset in the population. I have quoted Carl Sagan’s 1995 book on this page multiple times describing “30 second sound bites”, memes. That is how the mass man of society in USA is now driven. Constantly reacting in shallow superficial ways.

                Dr. Bandy X Lee’s 27 leaders since year 2017 being ignored by everyone while all laugh and joke about Donald Trump day and night. People who milk Trump for mental health jokes and memes every hour of every day. Amused, laughing, at an entertainer who is reacting to the waves of crowd emotions. It is a destructive dangerous media feedback loop between audience and performers. (Again, assert Carl Sagan 1995) - the avoidance of Dr. Lee’s leadership since year 2017 is the sober reality outside the screen game feedback looping.