They are owned by the same oligarchs and Israel. Nothing will meaningfully improve for the American people until we end the Israeli occupation of our government.
https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs. They have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years, currently 45. The last time they had 58 for less than two months they caucused with 2 independents to pass Medicaid. They would have launched a Public Option identical to Germany’s healthcare if not for one of those independents opposing it.
DNC is liberal, DNC is on our side, Vote DNC. Or, if an independent polls higher, then vote for them because at least they’re not a Republican and removing every single Republican should be our goal.
Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn’t. There have been some changes in recent history. And that’s good. But till there’s enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We’d be fools to treat them as if they changed.
The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they’re serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.
Well I want people on my side who actually DO something.
You can be on my side all you want, but unless you’re just marching with us, I want you to have some fucking balls and political capital if you’re going to fight for me on a policy level.
It’s largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done
THEY ARE THE LEADERSHIP
Christ it’s like the right still talking about the “Deep state” when they are deeper in the state than an Alabama hog farmer and his prize sow. Nah fam I am done playing the shell-game of accountability.
Dem “leadership” does nothing but field candidates they know will lose, and write stern letters to the people funding death squads. They are ineffectual because they don’t want to win. I don’t even care if I’m painting the whole party with too broad a brush, because whoever is in there still on our side don’t seem to have the power or will to go against their party in any meaningful capacity.
Flush the toilet, sink the turds, fill the bowl with new turds and lets see if they sink or float.
AOC and Mamdani are leadership? Did anyone tell them or the DNC that?
The closest we’re getting to a shell game here is painting with a broad brush and lumping them all into one shell. You’re never going to get the old guard out if you continue to make enemies of the ones actually working to do it.
They have one of the strongest mandates imaginable, the popularity of this president and ICE and our “foreign policy” if you want to call it that are some of the most unpopular, openly reviled federal actions and policies ever undertaken in this country. The democrats could capitalize on this with great fury and show the power of the people is a stronger source of political capital than a small segment of armed nuts who prop up the current Trumpist GOP.
Oh I will, but not for any incumbents. This current batch is most definitely NOT on our side, but the DNC is just a container, it’s filled with a liquid that has gone bad.
We pour out the contents of the container and replace it with something that hasn’t gone bad yet.
The current batch believes in ending PACs, taxing the rich, and expanding healthcare. Most importantly, perhaps, is they replace Republicans who would actively harm us all. Why don’t you want those things?
The current batch believes in ending PACs, taxing the rich, and expanding healthcare.
The current batch who ostensibly “want” these things are the same ones who didn’t DO these things when they had control of house and senate several times for the last several decades. I don’t know what to tell you, they are doing the same thing the GOP does with a different color background and a different color animal mascot.
Combine that with the israel-worshipping and cuck-wall kissing fealty to a genocidal regime, overt efforts by the mainstream dem leadership to squash actual progressive candidates like Mamdani, and the absolutely ATROCIOUS AND USELESS FUCKING RESPONSE TO DEATH SQUADS IN OUR CITIES, yeah I can’t get myself excited about these ancient fuckwads and liches hoarding their donor cash.
I will be voting for Dems, we don’t have an alternative that makes sense yet, but not the current ones. Every incumbent goes, every turd gets flushed.
edit: since I had enough the sock-puppet I was replying to in another pointless thread, I also want to add that making the argument “Whaaah, the republicans didn’t LET dems do the thing” is an absolutely useless fucking argument. That IS my argument, they’re shifting blame, they’re ignoring the people’s will, they’re not calling out hate, they’re making ZERO effort to appeal to people’s innate empathy for marginalized people. They could strike the GOP like a mighty hammer with the mandate that has grown in liberal America. I am reminded of Hakeem “Innsmouth Resident” Jeffries being asked why they don’t DO something about Trump and he said “Well the people voted for him, he has a mandate!” standing next to Chuck “Decaying Lich” Schumer as they smirked at reporters. These people are evil, they do not have your back. Vote them the fuck out.
Hand wavy vibes, current mainstream Dems have folded over and over, do I really need to bring up the government shutdown at the end of last year? That’s just the most RECENT too, they are not out for us, they are working WITH the GOP and not stopping anything. Get your head out of the sand.
We can still have a democrat party, I’m advocating for NEW democrats and not this current batch of zionist collaborators. Don’t bother replying.
The DNC has had multiple opportunities to tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs during my lifetime and they have not done so once. I don’t believe them anymore when they say it’s their platform.
Being anti-Republican isn’t enough anymore. This shit will keep happening for as long as we allow private ownership of the means of production.
The quiet part is there wasn’t a plan to tax the rich for another decade or two when they thought shit would actually hit the fan. Shit hit the fan much sooner than they hoped, as this was an issue they were going to leave the next generation to handle. It’s more an issue of the baby boomers having had control of the DNC for decades.
Business was booming during the Obama years; why did it matter to the rich people in Congress if the rest of us had to hustle more? That’s the real reason they didn’t tax the rich when they could have, well that and they were getting tons of funding from the big businesses.
The pro-corporate Dem plans went up in flames quite a lot when Hillary was not elected. Now that shit got worse much sooner than they hoped, they’re in a rock and a hard place because they still don’t want to tax their rich buddies but the voters are actually pushing to vote them out if they keep doing nothing.
And I feel more and more that they only say these are their platforms because they have absolutely no chance of pulling any of it off so it’s safe to promise but they won’t be required to do the negotiating and political work to make it happen, especially if the entire party isn’t aligned behind the goal. It’s very easy to make promises for things but so far none of that has panned out on a federal level.
they have absolutely no chance intention of pulling any of it off
I corrected this slightly, but you’re right. They know that none of it is actually going to get done, and they have the excuses already lined up: not enough votes, obstruction, filibuster, parliamentarian, etc. etc. etc.
It’s the same reason some billionaires insist that they support higher taxation on themselves, because they know it is never going to happen.
And also, itd be great if senators like Bernie, Warren and others, actually called out their “peers” who are obviously blocking progress.
I think my two Senators: Kaine, and Warner are playing a shell game where they go as corporate as they can and still give the appearance of resistance.
And yet I ha e to vote for them until there is a viable alternative. Its just so frustrating the lack of transparency.
And yet I ha e to vote for them until there is a viable alternative.
This coming November there will likely be challengers to almost every Dem seat, people smell how fed up the populace is with current DNC leadership and will likely throw their hats in the ring.
DNC is a container. We pour out the contents of the container and fill it with something new.
Honestly, I think voting for them isn’t even enough. We have to promote them. We have to outwardly support them and not talk shit about them online or in public, or else they will lose to a Republican and we’ll be all that much worse off.
It was suspicious how many accounts claiming to be left-leaning all of a sudden in like, July 2024 decided to suddenly buy the lies the GOP had been selling for years that Biden was old and senile just because he has a stutter.
The DNC does need to have better primaries though. Which means people PARTICIPATING in them. But also not allowing people like Bloomberg to buy their way in. To actually HOLD primaries like they didn’t for Biden’s incumbent campaign.
Dems are beholden to billionaires. They just don’t want to be as obvious as Republicans.
It’s not liberals versus conservatives.
It’s the rich versus the rest.
There’s a lot more of us than there are of them.
They are owned by the same oligarchs and Israel. Nothing will meaningfully improve for the American people until we end the Israeli occupation of our government. https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
DNC platform is tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs. They have had 48 or less senators for over 13 years, currently 45. The last time they had 58 for less than two months they caucused with 2 independents to pass Medicaid. They would have launched a Public Option identical to Germany’s healthcare if not for one of those independents opposing it.
DNC is liberal, DNC is on our side, Vote DNC. Or, if an independent polls higher, then vote for them because at least they’re not a Republican and removing every single Republican should be our goal.
Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn’t. There have been some changes in recent history. And that’s good. But till there’s enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We’d be fools to treat them as if they changed.
The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they’re serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.
Yeah, like three of them.
And the rest are fighting harder to stop Democrats who actually are on our side than they are against fascists: people like Mamdani and Platner.
Yep, but thankfully it looks like Mamdani and Platner might be changing the equation. Fingers crossed.
Well I want people on my side who actually DO something.
You can be on my side all you want, but unless you’re just marching with us, I want you to have some fucking balls and political capital if you’re going to fight for me on a policy level.
Everyone does. AOC and Mamdani literally are marching with us. It’s largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done or changing. Blame them.
THEY ARE THE LEADERSHIP
Christ it’s like the right still talking about the “Deep state” when they are deeper in the state than an Alabama hog farmer and his prize sow. Nah fam I am done playing the shell-game of accountability.
Dem “leadership” does nothing but field candidates they know will lose, and write stern letters to the people funding death squads. They are ineffectual because they don’t want to win. I don’t even care if I’m painting the whole party with too broad a brush, because whoever is in there still on our side don’t seem to have the power or will to go against their party in any meaningful capacity.
Flush the toilet, sink the turds, fill the bowl with new turds and lets see if they sink or float.
AOC and Mamdani are leadership? Did anyone tell them or the DNC that?
The closest we’re getting to a shell game here is painting with a broad brush and lumping them all into one shell. You’re never going to get the old guard out if you continue to make enemies of the ones actually working to do it.
The DNC does have a new Chairman.
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They have one of the strongest mandates imaginable, the popularity of this president and ICE and our “foreign policy” if you want to call it that are some of the most unpopular, openly reviled federal actions and policies ever undertaken in this country. The democrats could capitalize on this with great fury and show the power of the people is a stronger source of political capital than a small segment of armed nuts who prop up the current Trumpist GOP.
Dems are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Oh I will, but not for any incumbents. This current batch is most definitely NOT on our side, but the DNC is just a container, it’s filled with a liquid that has gone bad.
We pour out the contents of the container and replace it with something that hasn’t gone bad yet.
The current batch believes in ending PACs, taxing the rich, and expanding healthcare. Most importantly, perhaps, is they replace Republicans who would actively harm us all. Why don’t you want those things?
The current batch who ostensibly “want” these things are the same ones who didn’t DO these things when they had control of house and senate several times for the last several decades. I don’t know what to tell you, they are doing the same thing the GOP does with a different color background and a different color animal mascot.
Combine that with the israel-worshipping and cuck-wall kissing fealty to a genocidal regime, overt efforts by the mainstream dem leadership to squash actual progressive candidates like Mamdani, and the absolutely ATROCIOUS AND USELESS FUCKING RESPONSE TO DEATH SQUADS IN OUR CITIES, yeah I can’t get myself excited about these ancient fuckwads and liches hoarding their donor cash.
I will be voting for Dems, we don’t have an alternative that makes sense yet, but not the current ones. Every incumbent goes, every turd gets flushed.
edit: since I had enough the sock-puppet I was replying to in another pointless thread, I also want to add that making the argument “Whaaah, the republicans didn’t LET dems do the thing” is an absolutely useless fucking argument. That IS my argument, they’re shifting blame, they’re ignoring the people’s will, they’re not calling out hate, they’re making ZERO effort to appeal to people’s innate empathy for marginalized people. They could strike the GOP like a mighty hammer with the mandate that has grown in liberal America. I am reminded of Hakeem “Innsmouth Resident” Jeffries being asked why they don’t DO something about Trump and he said “Well the people voted for him, he has a mandate!” standing next to Chuck “Decaying Lich” Schumer as they smirked at reporters. These people are evil, they do not have your back. Vote them the fuck out.
They had 58 senate seats 16 years ago for 2 months. They had 53 seats over 13 years ago. They had 48 or less every year since.
And yet they do pass such legislations literally all the time. You just ignored it.
Hand wavy vibes, current mainstream Dems have folded over and over, do I really need to bring up the government shutdown at the end of last year? That’s just the most RECENT too, they are not out for us, they are working WITH the GOP and not stopping anything. Get your head out of the sand.
We can still have a democrat party, I’m advocating for NEW democrats and not this current batch of zionist collaborators. Don’t bother replying.
I’m all for newer more progressive dems, but the way you insult and drag through the mud all the current dems is ridiculous and harmful to us all.
The DNC has had multiple opportunities to tax the rich, raise minimum wage, and fund social programs during my lifetime and they have not done so once. I don’t believe them anymore when they say it’s their platform.
Being anti-Republican isn’t enough anymore. This shit will keep happening for as long as we allow private ownership of the means of production.
The quiet part is there wasn’t a plan to tax the rich for another decade or two when they thought shit would actually hit the fan. Shit hit the fan much sooner than they hoped, as this was an issue they were going to leave the next generation to handle. It’s more an issue of the baby boomers having had control of the DNC for decades.
Business was booming during the Obama years; why did it matter to the rich people in Congress if the rest of us had to hustle more? That’s the real reason they didn’t tax the rich when they could have, well that and they were getting tons of funding from the big businesses.
The pro-corporate Dem plans went up in flames quite a lot when Hillary was not elected. Now that shit got worse much sooner than they hoped, they’re in a rock and a hard place because they still don’t want to tax their rich buddies but the voters are actually pushing to vote them out if they keep doing nothing.
And their campaign promises have so much value, clearly.
And I feel more and more that they only say these are their platforms because they have absolutely no chance of pulling any of it off so it’s safe to promise but they won’t be required to do the negotiating and political work to make it happen, especially if the entire party isn’t aligned behind the goal. It’s very easy to make promises for things but so far none of that has panned out on a federal level.
I corrected this slightly, but you’re right. They know that none of it is actually going to get done, and they have the excuses already lined up: not enough votes, obstruction, filibuster, parliamentarian, etc. etc. etc.
It’s the same reason some billionaires insist that they support higher taxation on themselves, because they know it is never going to happen.
Maybe if we had more than 48 we could find out. Let’s call their bluff.
Every time the Dems have had a majority in my lifetime, they have failed to even discuss progressive legislation, let alone try to enact it.
I agree.
And also, itd be great if senators like Bernie, Warren and others, actually called out their “peers” who are obviously blocking progress.
I think my two Senators: Kaine, and Warner are playing a shell game where they go as corporate as they can and still give the appearance of resistance.
And yet I ha e to vote for them until there is a viable alternative. Its just so frustrating the lack of transparency.
This coming November there will likely be challengers to almost every Dem seat, people smell how fed up the populace is with current DNC leadership and will likely throw their hats in the ring.
DNC is a container. We pour out the contents of the container and fill it with something new.
Honestly, I think voting for them isn’t even enough. We have to promote them. We have to outwardly support them and not talk shit about them online or in public, or else they will lose to a Republican and we’ll be all that much worse off.
It was suspicious how many accounts claiming to be left-leaning all of a sudden in like, July 2024 decided to suddenly buy the lies the GOP had been selling for years that Biden was old and senile just because he has a stutter.
The DNC does need to have better primaries though. Which means people PARTICIPATING in them. But also not allowing people like Bloomberg to buy their way in. To actually HOLD primaries like they didn’t for Biden’s incumbent campaign.
Biden won the primary just like every incumbent in us history, and then he stepped down and his Vice President took over.
And when Biden won the previous primary in 2020, he actually more than doubled the runner up Bernie Sanders.