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Sports were invented an curated over time by men who only selected men to learn and play. Given equal opportunity to shape and influence sports culture, women could compete on an even playing field with men.
i mean… this is one of those takes i dont understand. it kind of denies basic biological facts. testosterone makes bodies more physically performant in a lot of ways. all else being equal, given the same level of training effort and support, a testosterone dominant body will outperform an estrogen dominant body in sports where physical strength is a major component. you dont even need to do a big population study to show this, just look at any trans woman. our athletic performance gets worse when we transition because our bodies become estrogen dominant, resulting in reduced muscle mass and several other things. conversely people with higher testosterone perform better, which is why its a banned performance enhancing substance in most sports. theres only so much physical advantage you can overcome with skill alone and theres nothing stopping someone with a physical advantage from developing the same level of skill.
im guessing theres something about your position im not understanding though. when i get into these arguments with people theyre usually using a totally different definition for one or more words so it ends up being more a semantic argument.
Sports and culture have been dominated by men who have not only curated sports most suited to their mechanical advantages, but have also created a culture where men are more supported when it comes to getting into those activities. So, men have the advantage of sports that are more suited to their bodies and also a broader pool of participants compared to women.
This is why I included: “Given equal opportunity to shape and influence sports culture…” Meaning that women have capabilities which aren’t favored in most current physical performance events because we have little to no say in the creation and rules of sporting events.
Women have some physical advantages over men, but hardly any give us an advantage in male dominated events that favor strength and speed. On average, woman have better vision with more colour definition, our hearts are closer to our brains so we can withstand higher G forces, and our lower center of gravity gives us better balance. We make great sharpshooters, pilots, golfers and gymnasts because of these advantages.
But if women were participating in the evolution of sports culture would the methods of playing, and the resulting games created, end up rewarding pure physical force as much?
Women having the ability to play on an even playing field with men isn’t the same as saying all women would have an even playing field with men. I think that distinction is where the important difference is between your comment and Wren’s comment.
I fully believe this. Most of the difference is societal. Men DO have a strength, height and weight advantage, but its not as extreme as people think, and those three qualities don’t automatically make someone the best option for a sport. This is especially true and apparent in things like e-sports where men have ZERO inherent advantage, but overwhelming societal advantage to be better.
When looking back through time, even our neanderthal relatives believed this. Their societies were egalitarian. Women hunted. Men raised babies. Men foraged alongside women. Everyone was included.
It’s theorized that when the plow became the object we used for a lot of our agrarian needs that gender roles started appearing. The plow took a lot of upper body strength, which men had more of, and that left women sorta without a job, so they ended up minding the home and children more often. Not to say women couldn’t handle the plow, it was just harder.
Less than a hill I’d die in, and more of a privately held belief: women are, generally speaking, better than men at most things (some exceptions exist). It’s not that there aren’t smart/great men out there. I just think their female peers tend to do a better job.
The best kitchen crew I ever ran was all women, with the sole man being the absolute worst employee I ever had - who quit because he didn’t like working with women. He probably just heard I wanted to fire him and got out the door before I could.
I don’t think women are innately better, but they have learned to work harder and better to avoid disproportionate scrutiny and critcism compared to their male peers.
Misandry doesn’t exist.
In the has to be instetutional or it does not happen way or sm else?
It doesn’t exist the way misogyny does.
Women as a group owe nothing to men as a group.
Period.
We do not owe men a smile. We do not owe men “looking our best”. We do not owe men emotional support. We do not owe men attention. We do not owe men conversation. We do not owe men sex.
We can grant these to men of our choosing. None of them are owed.
Exactly. They get basic human decency like everyone, until they show that they don’t deserve it. And everything else is granted on a case by case basis.
Honestly, that’s my method regardless of gender or sex
Pretty much all of them.
