• hirihit640@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    out of one side of your mouth …but out of the other side of your mouth

    Both can be true. I’m saying that even though China is less advanced than the US (as evidenced by the lower GDP per capita and lower emissions per capita), China still has enough GDP per capita to be amongst the top nations of the world.

    At the very least, they should be reducing their emissions like the other top nations. I’m not asking more from China than I am from western nations. I’m asking for them to do the same.

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      3 days ago

      except you literally are - it will be a decade or more until china’s per capita emissions match either the us or canada if current trends continue, but considering the current administration in the us doesn’t believe in lowering emissions and china continues to ramp renewables, one could reasonably expect convergence with the us to slow even beyond that.

      given that situation, pointing to china as the problem is truly laughable. the world can’t afford for the us to give up on reducing emissions (which it has, at least temporarily seems to have done), and china has a long way to go before it is in danger of not keeping up with the top emitting nations in terms of curbing its emissions.

      taken from a forbes article, even on total emissions the current view is very different from the picture you are trying to paint:

      Global CO2-equivalent emissions reached a record 41.0 billion metric tons in 2025, increasing 1.1%, according to the Energy Institute’s 2026 Statistical Review. This rise occurred even as renewables met the entire net increase in global electricity generation, indicating non-power sectors like transport and industry are driving emissions. Notably, the U.S. saw a sharp 3.2% rebound, contributing nearly half the global increase, fueled by rising demand and a surprising return to coal. In stark contrast, China, the largest emitter, experienced near-stalled growth due to massive non-fossil power expansion. India’s growth also slowed. The data underscores that while clean energy scales, overall decarbonization remains insufficient, with regional shifts dictating global progress.
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2026/07/05/global-emissions-hit-a-new-record-as-us-emissions-rebounded/

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        2 days ago

        China is behind the EU in per capita emissions. And anyways as mentioned before, per capita emissions is not the metric I would use. The wiki on carbon emissions also shows per GDP emissions, and on that China is behind.

        But there’s another simple metric that China is behind on. Reducing emissions. Not just slowing growth. Reducing them. The US and EU can do it, so should China

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          2 days ago

          boring, my last comment already fully covers this - seems like you neither have any new direction to deflect in nor an interest in engaging in good faith… disappointing

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            17 hours ago

            You mentioned the US and Canada, not the EU? And nothing about emissions per GDP? Maybe stop lying?

            You clearly just think China is doing “good enough”. Fine. And I think the US and EU are doing “good enough” too and the oil companies in OP are not a problem