Russia said on Monday that Finland’s reversal of its long-standing ban on nuclear weapons requires a response as tensions between NATO and Moscow continue to rise. Finland’s parliament voted on June 17 to lift the ban, which allows the country to receive, transport, and facilitate the movement of nuclear weapons on its territory as part of […]


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    I don’t blame Russia. They’ve been lied to repeatedly. I guess they should just let NATO do whatever they want and fence Russia in so they can drop the bomb. 🤷‍♀️

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      Fence Russia in? Countries don’t get to expand their borders just cause they want to. And no one is dropping “the bomb” on Russia. That’d be the quickest way to make Fallout a reality.

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        They were promised no NATO creep, now it’s on their doorstep. And Ukraine should have abided by their agreements. They didn’t.

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          Sure, but at the same time, why does it matter? The only thing living up to those promises does is keep Russia’s neighbors weaker. How do they actually affect Russia?

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            “How do these fascist laws USA is passing affect me? The only thing not enacting them does is make USA weaker.”

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              Making a bad analogy isn’t helping your case. All this makes me think is that you have no defense to what I said.

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                Aren’t you clever to figure out that’s exactly what you sounded like to me!

                It makes Russia weaker, and that’s what your democracies want, like in the global South, so these ever benevolent democracies can plunder the East like they have the South, all for… Less breadcrumbs for the people and more for the techbros. But at least cars can be fueled for a reasonable price and device storage will come down! Maybe. 🤔 All on the backs of the working people Westerners only bother to care about if it makes oligharch-controlled news often enough. But sure, feel clever, I guess.

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                  Fascist Russia is the only country in the area on an imperialistic rampage expanding their borders, after doing the same thing decades ago.

                  Europe needs to protect itself against Russia, Russia doesn’t need to do shit except stop being horrible people.

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                    How does it make any the NATO states weaker to honor their promises?

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      Yes, those little countries between the old NATO border and Russia are just mindless pawns without any autonomy of their own. Fuck off with your imperialist speech.

      Those countries could choose between siding with NATO and siding with Russia and they chose to side with NATO because Russia is antagonistic and untrustworthy. It wouldn’t matter if Russia had been lied to because if Russia had been a reliable ally to its neighbors there wouldn’t have been a NATO expansion. Russia getting fenced in is their own doing.

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        Calling Russia imperialist is DARVO. Those states are US vassals, and it’s tragicomic everyone talks about sovereignty and standing up to the US while kissing the ring as the US abuses them.

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          Calling Russia imperialist is DARVO.

          I didn’t call Russia imperialist, I called your wording imperialist. But I can see how you’d miss that obvious distinction so I guess the fault lies with me.

          Those states are US vassals, and it’s tragicomic everyone talks about sovereignty and standing up to the US while kissing the ring as the US abuses them.

          That’s why it only took the US half a century, the Ukrainian war and direct threat from Putin himself to have Finland and Sweden become a part of NATO? It makes perfect sense because only a vassal state would refuse to do what their lord wants unless doing it becomes in their self-interest. My bad for having some grasp on reality.