Just saw this while scrolling on fedi being posted by this user: @Rasta@zeroes.ca

  • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    25 days ago

    Lowkey, I don’t view it as men vs. women at all. It’s really just the bourgeoisie pitting us against each other by playing favourites.

    tl;dr: Workers of the world, unite!

    Edit: I made an additional statement, which was sexist against men. I have removed it. My appologies.

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      26 days ago

      I’m all for a safe space for women but this reeks of sexism. Except the good ones, is a common trope among bigots who want to generalize without sounding like bigots.

      • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I think perhaps my opinions have shifted to fit in with my sisters and mother. They say things like that they hate all men, and say “it’s not personal” to my dad and brother-in-law.

        I appologise for being sexist. I shall attempt to course-correct.

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          26 days ago

          Thanks for listening and owning up. I know it’s hard to break a habit when casual sexism becomes your norm.

          • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            26 days ago

            I honestly have a tendency to avoid taking responsibility and acknowledging when I’m wrong, but I’m trying to do better. Feel free to correct/confront me in the future.

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              26 days ago

              I appreciate it. As someone who fought some hard rejection sensitivity issues, it feels way better to own up than to double down when I know I’m wrong.

              • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                26 days ago

                Oh. I looked it up, and that sounds like me. I wonder if it’s connected to my social anxiety.

                Also, yeah, owning up does feel better than digging my heels in.

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                  26 days ago

                  I learned it’s part of ADHD, which I have. Naming it has helped me acknowledge when it’s happening. Since anxiety goes hand in hand with conditions like ADHD, it might be related.

          • velma@sh.itjust.works
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            25 days ago

            !feminism@lemmy.world is rather active and we can make it more so if you truly want to discuss these types of subjects with all genders. Maybe someone else has a better community suggestion.

            None of the community members here told you those things or said you were mansplaining. Please do not paint us all with the same brush.

            Please respect that women and femme and non-binary people want a space to discuss with each other in a safe and supportive community.

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                Please, I’m begging you, read the comment sections of several posts here. You’ll be able to see how polite and respectful we are to men who accidentally post. We don’t extend warm reminders to men who leave sexist or dismissive or otherwise rude comments.

                I’d rather you look for yourself than make assumptions and comment based on those assumptions.

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                    25 days ago

                    I mean, you are repeatedly breaking the rules. That is disrespectful. You could have sent me a DM instead of commenting further.

                    As you can see if you look around at the other comments, men who politely leave (or do not have a previous reputation of being jerks to us) are not shouted at but rather acknowledged as allies for respecting the rules.

                    At this point I’m not so sure you’re willing to change your mind about us. It would be best for you to go now.

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            So you know the rules. You know your posting here is against the rules. And you decided to post here anyway to whine about the rules and about how your posting here is against them, daring us, in effect, to delete your post.

            And somehow this makes you a good person.

            You then proceed to make your masculine self the main character in a women’s group, whining about your “genital mutilation”.

            And somehow this makes you a good person and those who want to have a space to themselves bad.

            Yes, you’re very obviously an “ally”.

            You utter fucking berk.

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      26 days ago

      Honestly I’d really like to believe it’s not most men that would do fucked up shit. Men are problematic because most don’t speak up when they see bad shit, but I still think it’s a minority that are actually doing the bad shit. I do think that not speaking up is conditioning that can be broken though.

      At least that’s me trying to live in a glass-half-full world.

      • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I would like to believe the same. It seems more likely than all men being extremely dangerous individuals whose composure might snap at any moment.

        Anyways, cheers to half-full glasses!

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      I’m uneasy with this commonly seen argument here. There is a class war, but it’s not like the gender war disappears on the working class side when workers unite.

      It’s only men vs women insofar as men uphold and reinforce the patriarchy like in the post.

      People more eloquent than myself can probably elaborate on what I’m saying better than my admittedly brief comment here.

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        25 days ago

        it’s not like the gender war disappears on the working class side when workers unite

        Indeed the working class can be some of the most socially regressive people on the planet when it comes to racial and gender issues.

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          26 days ago

          Hey thanks for that. As Lady Butterfly said, conditioning can be strong.

          I think the recent news about César Chavez really drives this point home.

    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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      Idk look around the world, even places practically untouched by capitalism, tribal villages, remote rural communities, isolated traditional societies… women are almost always second class citizens at best and subjugated livestock or even worse even in some places were women giving birth will not be provided care with out her owner husband present and it’s illegal to practice midwifery but men are not allowed to practice medicine on women, even animal get medical care that isn’t discriminatory based on their sex. I fear this is just human nature or at least post agriculture human behavior

      • strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I think it might be a natural thing. In the animal world, males are usually the boss, which is due to generally being larger and stronger.

        I think it could be trained out of people—meaning both men and women. I’d like to think we’re cabable of resisting nature through education.

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          In the animal world, males are usually the boss, which is due to generally being larger and stronger

          This is why I love spiders. The females are big, beautiful, and full of color, then they eat the males once they have fulfilled their reproductive duty.

          Humans should be more like spiders and eat men (not really, I’m just being silly 😊)