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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.worldtoMicroblog Memes@lemmy.world•words to live by 🙏English
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    14 hours ago

    Almost everyone is Johnny. Spike and Timmy are caricature types - the uncompromising extremes. If Johnny was on the list you’d have to choose if you are more similar to Spike to more similar to Timmy, but since he is there - representing the entire range between the other two - you, a complex real-life (I hope?) person and not a shallow 1D character, are bound to meaninglessly identify as a Johnny.

  • AeonFelis@lemmy.worldtoToday I Learned@lemmy.world•TIL: Young Men Ages 18–29 are Turning Right-Wing and Women of the Same Age Turning Left-WingEnglish
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    1 day ago

    Except… I really didn’t say that “both sides are the same”. This claim - in the context of politics, at least - usually mean one of two (quite similar) propositions:

    1. Party A, which is now in power, enacted a questionable policy - but if Party B was in power instead in a similar situation it’d do a similar thing.
      • Variation - this can also be claimed about something the party not in power does as an opposition.
    2. Party A used some questionable methods to increase its power - but Party B is also using some similarly questionable methods to gain power.

    Since the topic here is shifts in the political views of various demographics - the second proposition is the more relevant one.

    Both sides are very much not the same here. One side is pushing while the other is pulling. Pushing and pulling is not the same thing - they are opposite things. I hope you understand that, and that you are not struggling with operating doors. I did not say that both conservatives and progressives are using similar methods to gain influence here, because that’s not true. It’s not true even if you remove the word “similar” because progressives are not using methods to gain influence - they are using methods to lose influence.

    Also, when I said that the Left - and not just the Right - is also contributing to this trend, I was not doing it to imply that both sides share the blame for this trend. I reject that proposition. The blame here goes 100% to the Left[1]! The winning side does not need to reflect on why it is winning[2] - and when the losing side reflects on why it is losing, making its conclusion about the wining side’s tactics is not very helpful unless its for coming up with ways to counter these methods - which I’m not seeing done here.

    These men feel rejected by the Left, and the Right is taking advantage of these feelings. Both sides are not the same here - only one side is competent.

    1. Technically these are two different “pools” of blame - each side has responsibility toward itself to gain power, and gains blame if it loses influence. But since the Right is not losing influence here, there is zero blame in its “pool” - and whatever percentage of the blame the left takes from its own “pool” is 100% percent of the total blame taken from both “pools” (whether or not they can be added together is not important, since one of them is zero) ↩︎

    2. I mean, it can, if it wants to figure out what it did right so it can keep doing it. And despite winning - the winning side may have also done some mistakes and can benefit from reflecting on them. But this reflection does not carry the same meaning as the losing side reflecting on its loss. ↩︎