Add a 3rd Dimensions and you will find BSD chads laughing at us from their jail’s
They should laugh. When I switched from FreeBSD to Linux felt it like such a downgrade.
Im curious what you felt was a downgreade. I think its much better designed but I feel it lacks so many more features vs modern Linux
I think it was the general lack of consistency. Everything felt a bit messy. This was almost 20 years ago and back then the BSDs had some features that were missing in Linux.
ah yeah that makes sense
i lub me some gentoo…
… but …
K.I.S.S.
…?
Keep it simple, stupid!
I know you’re not impressed that I use Ubuntu but it’s not Windows, and I can’t be bothered to learn a damn thing about how to operate a system.
If Ubuntu works for you then keep rocking it
I used to use ubuntu but stopped bc i couldnt really game without dual booting to windows anyway.
Would you recommend ubuntu now? I know linux gaming is in a much better place, it just wasnt user friendly as an OS back in 2010
There’s no reason to choose Ubuntu over Debian these days, and plenty of reasons to use Debian over Ubuntu.
For context, Ubuntu is based on Debian, so most of the stuff under the hood is the same, but Ubuntu keeps forcing background decisions about things that are not always in the user’s best interests.
As for user interface, if you’re used to Ubuntu with Gnome, try Debian with Gnome. If Ubuntu with KDE, try Debian with KDE. That way you get a familiar desktop environment and a sensible base OS.Could you translate this to stupid please
I’m no expert, but here’s my working knowledge: If Debian is the engine/frame of the car, KDE and Gnome are different versions of the body/interior. KDE looks more like windows, Gnome looks more like macos or andriod maybe? Standard Ubuntu does aftermarket mods to Debian with Gnome.
That’s pretty good.
I’m gonna piggyback your analogy:Ubuntu is like an aftermarket car company that put in their own engine. They’ve started putting locks onto things, and when you ask them to install certain options, they say “yes, here you go” but secretly put in a worse version of that thing that only they can fix.
Then you take it to a shop and say “please fix this part, it’s one of these” and they say “that’s clearly not what’s in here, you’re on your own”.KDE and Gnome are like different consoles and steering wheel, if you could bring those with you into your next car. If you’re used to where the buttons and knobs are, you have the option to bring the whole thing over into a different car.
So if im most used to windows i should try debian with the kde stuff? Whats wine in this metaphor? Is that the same thing as kde?
Not sure this metaphor can be stretched enough to shoehorn wine into it.
Wine is just an application and it’ll work in any desktop environment (KDE, Gnome, etc), and it allows you to run Windows applications. Think of it as an application that lets your system pretend it’s actually Windows
(and for the pedantic neckbeards: yes I know this sounds like I’m calling wine an emulator, which it isn’t)
What are the kinds of Linux users?
There are only 10 kinds.
- Newbies
- Gamers
- Developers
- Sys admin
- Daemonologists
- Marxist-Linux-Stallmanists
- The NSA
- Д̶̲̈́͛͂͒р̵̩̳̰͂̐͝у̵̖͕͠г̷̬̬̐͛́
- Femboys and other Arch users
- Hannah Montana
+Those who have backups, and those who will.
Why is nobody saying opensuse… I’m afraid
I use Gentoo on my mail server because I’m too lazy to learn a new distro.
Nix
The future is now old man
boot
open librewolf
open neovim
code my silly lil’ Dreamcast stuff
close neovim
play quake arena
shutdown
“CentOS, just like your pappy.”
Dad energy. Debian + XFCE. Get off my lawn.
I’m a nightmare for any IT department and software developer. I know enough to do damage, but don’t have the patience and knowledge to wield this power. I go around editing shit in random config files in order to “temporarily fix” an issue and then forget that I ever did it, slowly turning and system I touch into a ticking time bomb. This also combined with my unique ability to seemingly break any piece of software by merely interacting with it, especially on Linux, before I even had the chance to install anything. I’ve installed and used Linux on countless devices and haven’t ever had a smooth ride, yet still I’m completely daily driving Linux at this point.
I use Arch by the way :3 (and Fedora, and Ubuntu, and Raspbian, and God knows what else)
Mint. Couldn’t be arsed to have anything windows like at home, because I am tormented by win11 through my job.
So yeah, mint it is. Runs my slicer, 95% of my games and emby.
I am happy
I’ve yet to encounter a problem with mint I haven’t been able to solve with some googling and chatgpt. I love it.
Runs… 95% of my games and emby.
Nice! Last year, I would have assumed this was hyperbole!
But I just setup Steam on my new gaming rig recently, and sure enough - at least according to Steam - I have better than 95% compatibility with Linux in my Steam Library.
I’m sure having a SteamDeck for a few years affected this %, of course.
- Luggable gaming rig: CachyOS
- Surface Go 2: Mint
- Old laptop strapped to the underside of the gaming table: Debian
- NUC home server: Ubuntu Server
- Steam Deck: SteamOS
Non-linux:
- Gaming tower: Windows
- Previous gaming tower repurposed as NAS: TrueNAS
That’s crazy talk right there. After decades of who knows how many Linux distros, SunOS/Solaris, HPUX, AIX (and a splash of FreeBSD), the proper answer is this:
- Mint
- Already correct! >Mint
- Mint
- Mint - hardened if external
- I’ll allow it
Non-Linux
- por que!? OOF… this should be Mint or really any Linux is better
- I’ll allow it, though I find OMV to be better for various reasons
Not gatekeeping - just having a bit of fun. You do you, but I found it crazy supporting so many distros after all these years. At some point you go for “works great out of the box with minimal tinkering” that covers like 99% of use cases and frees up your time. That being said I’m sure I have a system or two around here still running Ubuntu or Debian or whatever that I just can’t be arsed to change.
I do like the dedication to Mint! To be honest it’s generally my default pick if I need to slap Linux onto something. I actually tried putting it on the gaming table machine but for reasons I didn’t feel like digging into it just did not cooperate, and Debian did.
CachyOS on the luggable gaming machine is mostly just because I hadn’t used it before and wanted to give it a spin. So far so good.
As for the Windows machine, it’s a gaming rig and at the time it was built, pre-steam deck, Linux wasn’t quite yet in as good a position for that as it is now. I just can’t be bothered to switch it mid-stream as it were. It’s almost certainly going to be the last Windows machine I ever own though.
Totally get using others if something isn’t working. I’ve been known to (gasp) throw on another distro to get past a problem until a new kernel release or bug fix comes in, but it’s the rarity now. I gotta be honest that I’m surprised it was Debian which solved a corner case for your gaming table. Maybe it was a monitor issue or weird (old) hardware?
Good call on the final pass with Windows. With Steam, you really can’t miss on hardly any game these days unless it’s bloated with DRM, but who am I to speak - I have XBox that can actively spy on me for those DRMed games… Carry on.
Old hardware is certainly possible. I salvaged it from my parents who were going to throw it out. It’s got an A10-8700P and is limping along with a single 4GB DIMM. The thing doesn’t even have a second memory slot.
Debian
Enough said.
Debian on my production servers, Arch Linux as my daily driver, Linux Mint on the devices I manage for normies.
Fedora on my servers, fedora as my daily driver, fedora on the devices I manage for normies.
finger on the trigger while not actively aiming at a target? this one is definitely a “run commands as root instead of using sudo” kinda linux user
Make life easy just run: chmod -R 777 /
Would I be immediately shot if the answer is FreeBSD?
Never! BSD bros are fellow comrades in arms against the corpos.
BSDs get too little love imho. They have more potential of becoming complete, usable and safe OSs than most Linux distros. Wish they would be discovered/talked about as much as Linux this past year.
