Yesterday, a Declaration of the trafficking of enslaved Africans and Racialized Chattel Enslavement of Africans as the Gravest Crime against Humanity was voted at UNO. As usual, Israel and the USA voted against. How did your country vote? Any thoughts about it?
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Yet again the genocide of first nations peoples/aboriginals is kind of forgotten. All crimes on a massive scale should be remembered by the international community and when one is elevated as the worst I fear that it will incentivise forgetting of the others and potential rascism clash poits.
It’s the Same Map As Always, USA + vassals Vs Rest of the World.
Is it? It’s not really subtle.
The yearly vote about blockade on Cuba is kind of an exception, even EU and the Oceanian Plankton usually vote “for”.
My favourite is the voting about combating the glorification of nazism, really says all
So this one is interesting to me because of the rhetoric used by the Ruzzianz during the early days of the Ukraine “Special Military Operation”.
Lots of talk about going into Ukraine and de-nazifying.
Curious if that played into this vote in any way, considering this vote occurred right in the middle of that. Poor form not to bring up this VERY important context.
Of fucking course you nazi lovers would have problems with combating the glorification of the nazism and justify this with the fact that you do support nazis.
dude you just took this from zero to one hundred, this is a legitimate point of discussion on the topic at hand especially when you consider the date of the vote. If you think based on anything I have written that I am a nazi or nazi supporter I have several bridges for sale that might interest you.
Chill out.
You immediately throw yourself to add the vErY iMpOrTaNt cOnTexT that the countries voting against combating the glorification of nazism voted as such not only because they happen to currently support country where glorification of nazism is officially supported, but they also did it because they are being so petty to vote just because they oppose the country presenting the resolution.
Especially completely shameful for country like Poland which lost 6 million people to nazi murderers.
What? Friend your ramblings don’t even make sense, please consider spending some time outside of whatever bubble you’re stuck in.
Right so maybe those countries had a legitimate reason for voting against, beyond being “nazi lovers”.
You’re downplaying the systemic proliferation of neo-nazi groups like Azov in Ukraine, and the west’s collective complicity in creating the conditions for that.
I think you’re overplaying them, possibly because you’re highly affected by propaganda from those nations.
Can you elaborate? Do you think the global south near universally agreeing that Nazism is bad also means that they are highly affected by propaganda from those nations? Could it not be said that you’re highly affected by propaganda from western countries? Without backing your claims, that’s all they are, just claims.
You’ve walked into a Tankie bar. This should be expected.
Yeah it must be because of evil internet communists that Ukraine is full of nazis
USA doesn’t have vassals. If it did, they’d be helping them bomb Iran right now.
If the EU weren’t vassals they’d be importing fuel from Russia and solar from China, not because of ideals or whatever but because of practicality and (in the case of solar) to avoid climate collapse
I fucking hate it here. Every god damn report is just like “USA is dystopian fascist hellhole” and I wish I could do something.
Then I remember my card declined for groceries this week and I get one step closer to being radicalized into political violence
You can get organized! Join an org like PSL.
“against :3” they’re using that emote in UN votes now?
Abstention from Canada? wtf…
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wtf ireland, sweden, ukraine, united kingdom, canada, japan, iceland, hungary?
Abstaining feels like it is just as bad as voting no.
Why is that surprising? Ireland is sometimes better, I would suppose, but Sweden, Ukraine, UK, Canada, Japan, Iceland, and Hungary are all pretty damn right-wing and pro-imperialist.
because us liberals idolize other western countries as enlighted white paradises
Checks out.
Sweden, Ukraine, UK, Canada, Japan, Iceland, and Hungary are all pretty damn right-wing and pro-imperialist.
What an absolutely preposterous statement.
How so? All are dictatorships of capital that rely on exploiting the global south, or play a role as a vassal state for imperialist countries.
How tf do Ukraine and Hungary exploit the global south?
yeah i dont its not like ewwwwrope in general is connected to the usonian war machine, yes you are right if things are not 2 + 2 they must not be real, it’s not like there is a complex mechanism designed specifically to mechanize atrocities and commodify them yes you are right im sorry.
Ukraine is more of a vassal than one of the bigger imperialists, it’s used similarly to how Israel is by the US Empire. It’s itself being harvested for rare Earth minerals and shackled with tons of debt while at the same time being used to attack enemies of the west. Hungary is both a NATO and EU member state, it’s firmly on the side of the imperialist system.
Imperialism essentially is monopoly capitalism at its most developed stage, turned international. In the modern day, the US Empire is at the helm of this, with the EU and other NATO countries being used to protect this system of international extraction. By being in NATO, Hungary plays a part in defending this system, and by being in the EU, it benefits from imperialist spoils.
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what do you think is weird about ukraine lol? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkDakZLWAAEnkyy?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Not sure what a blacked out vote means, but tons of countries voted in ways I don’t agree with on this one too, so not sure why anyone should be singled out (my original point, call out collectively the failures).
sorry, lemmy was giving me issues uploading the image so i copied the wrong link, this is the one
Yeah, thats not a great look, but I also understand that since 2014 Ukraine has been in a war for its very existence with Russia, and that some neo nazi groups have done a lot of the fighting and dying for them.
I do not condone neo nazis, but I also understand Ukraine’s position not to shit on some of their best war fighters during a war for existence.
Its a complicated issue, and I think I would feel a stark difference had Ukraine been the aggressor, or had a repressive government (both things Russia is).
I believe that Ukraine will have to reckon with this if they survive the war, just like all countries will have to reckon with the far-right groups gaining traction and power in their countries.
It’s more that those in the Donbass region have been fighting a war for their own existence against Kiev since 2014. Kiev has far more Nazis than a few small bands.
i did not ask for nazi apologia bro, i dont care. you thought it was weird ukraine voting for this, i showed its a totally expected outcome given recent trends in the country, you can believe all the fairy tales your corporate overlords that form your government tell you to believe
ok bud, enjoy the echo chamber you live in. One day I hope you can look back at your crazy posts and laugh about it.
as always the gringos existence is based on projection, that’s what keeps your mental sanity and enables the fascist logic to permeate and rot your brain
Everyone should have voted no. The African enslavement was really fucked up, but “the worst human attrocity in history, ever”? The world has done some really, really, fucked up things. I don’t really even know why this particular slavery would be picked out from the other slaves over thousands of years except that is was pretty recent and large scale. Why is the world even voting on this shit while on the verge of world war three, while it seems that half the rich elites running the governments are pedophiles?
So the US voted against so it didn’t pass, yet again, I presume?
Fuck veto voting
This isn’t the Security Council. Nobody gets a veto.
Good point, just that the security council never gets anything done that has any practical effect whatsoever. \
South Korea voting in favor of the resolution is surprising. They are team America and they were enslaved, but are not included in the resolution because they were not shipped to the Americas. Seeing one’s own enslavement as not as grave as the African one is a statement.
The ROK has a more complicated geopolitical position. They are actively colonized by the US Empire, and have a government that carried over many of the former colonial elements under Japan. They voted the same way the DPRK did.
For what it’s worth, the current ROK president is the equivalent of a socdem who seems to be trying to improve relations with China and the DPRK
Yep, though contradictions in the ROK are extremely sharp. The oil crisis is only going to make them sharper. I see a lot of revolutionary potential in the ROK, but they do have extensive fascist elements as well.
“Actively colonized”, “US Empire”, boy you use a lot of propaganda-charged phrases.
What do you mean by “propaganda-charged?” We all speak in manners that conform to our present views. The USFK occupies the ROK and meddles in their internal and external affairs in a manner that supercedes domestic law and rights, and the US Empire is actively terrorizing the world and plundering the global south of the value created by them.
Fuck Argentina.
I’m from there, all I can say is… President Xi, my country yearns for freedom
We’ve always been a colony of
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Now the government doesn’t care to hide it at all, quite the contrary the president is very explicit about his love affair with yankizionists.
And let’s not pretend that the opposition is any different. Except for some small trotskyist parties with no real political weight.
Liberal idealism plagues us, we need more political education yesterday
I’m from Buenos Aires and I say kill us all
Abstaining means against in my book
I don’t know it can either mean political cowardice or a political compromise. None of those options are meant to be flattering but to me, if the vote was close I would have been angrier about an abstention.
You only posted half of the title.
Declaration of the Trafficking of Enslaved Africans and Racialized Chattel Enslavement of Africans as the Gravest Crime against Humanity
The “Gravest Crime against Humanity” part honestly explains why so many countries abstained.
The slave trade was an absolute atrocity and certainly one of the gravest crimes against humanity but should we label it as the gravest crime? Do we really need to introduce a ranking between slavery, the holocaust and dozens of other genocides instead of agreeing that they are/were all bad without picking one as the worst?
USA I made a little poem
Our president is child Making our reputation be defiled Seen as a big whiny bully While hiding his crimes obscurely
Trump is just confirming the reputation US already had
My disappointment in the US continues to be consistent and expected.
i sometimes wonder how the us will develop in some future where the petrodollar is no longer the world’s currency; would it be like the uk/netherlands/belgium still clinging to colonialism or will it be spain/portrugal still trying to cling onto colonialism despite not being part of the club anymore.
It’s hard to imagine, because it is even more useless and corrupt than those other countries. And that’s hard to imagine.
Please read the declaration before responding to this ragebait post
By all means. Here it is. After reading, please feel free to come back and comment. I find this point interesting:
Calls for the prompt and unhindered restitution of cultural properties, objets d’art, monuments, museum pieces, artefacts, manuscripts and documents, and national archives that are of spiritual, historical and cultural or other value to countries of origin without charge, and urges the strengthening of international cooperation on reparations for any damage done, recognizing that this leads to the promotion of nations.
These people! How dare them to claim back what’s theirs!?
