Edit for reasoning-I tend to enjoy mean spirited funny stuff sometimes. Creators are typically kind of shitty/immoral people but I still enjoy it. I feel conflicted sometimes but still end up watching and enjoying.

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    I read/listen/watch my Harry Potter books and movies that I’ve had for 20 years because it basically kept me alive when I was in the closet and it’s a big part of me but also fuck JK Rowling.

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    I’m too tired to really spend my time being too correctional on what I should or shouldn’t enjoy based on the actions some people do. It really depends. Ian Watkins is an exception, a horrible person, who made it easy for me to drop everything Lostprophets-related.

    I still listen to Disturbed, because there’s way too many songs I like from them. I don’t have to care about David Draiman and I don’t, because of what he did.

    I will still enjoy Harry Potter, because I believe the universe is bigger than J.K Rowlings to where, anything she does or says will not knock down my enjoyment of that universe. I can and will ignore her existence.

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    If I know someone is a terrible person, I can’t enjoy their work. Besides not wanting to financially support them, I like to put myself in an author’s, actor’s, writer’s shoes when I watch/read stuff.

    That said, I don’t purposefully look into people’s lives; I’m not into celebrity gossip. But sometimes a person is such an outlier or just so vocal about it that it’s unavoidable.

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    Once I think a creator is a bad person, depending on what they did, I have trouble enjoying their stuff.

    There are a ton of comedians, for example, that have done varying degrees of bad things that I just can’t listen to anymore. Louis CK, Cosby, any of the podcast bro comedians that got Trump elected, etc are all out. When I hear them perform it is all I can think about.

    Same with bands, writers, etc. I just have a nagging feeling in the back of my head reminding me the person is shitty.

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    The production and distribution of much media means that it’s practically impossible to avoid.

    I try to avoid media when my consumption of that media significantly benefits bad people, and there is a reasonable alternative.

    For example, I don’t consume Harry Potter content because fuck jk Rowling. She is a key creative and a key beneficiary of consuming that media. There are alternatives within that genre I can read instead.
    But I do use audible, despite them being terrible, because that’s where my collection is and thats where new releases are.

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    I try to avoid giving them more relevance, but I do occasionally revisit through means that don’t give them money. I hate Dave Mustaine’s guts, so I have the best three Megadeth albums downloaded (Peace Sells… But Who’s Buying?, Rust in Peace, Countdown to Extinction).

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    It varies.

    I often give the example of HP Lovecraft. I’m a big fan of his stories and the Cthulhu Mythos. But it remains that he was a huge racist. How do I reconcile the two?

    First, an author’s works are separate from the author themselves. Second, in Lovecraft’s case, he was a product of his time and upbringing. And third, and importantly in his case: he’s dead. He has no ability to change beyond his passing in the 1930s. People can and do change all the time. If Lovecraft were around today he might have become to most left-leaning person in the world, but he never had that chance. There were indications, late in life, that he might well have changed.

    But, he didn’t. It remains that he was a racist in life, that will never change, and because of it there will always be people uncomfortable with his work. That is understandable, and I won’t try to convince anyone that they should ignore it.

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    Nope, because the contributions from my viewership just promotes their horrible immorality/views and helps spread them by giving it attention. If I find out someone s a MAGAt or other country’s equivalent I drop them like a bad habit. I have no desire to help promote their line of thinking, even if the content is benign, and social ostracizing is the only real tool I have. I have stopped watching artists, youtube channels, and such because eventually said person’s views come into focus. Any support of them also promote harm to people I care about because they may be likely to support candidates that’d hurt them.

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    Usually if the person who made something is a massive piece of shit, that just puts me off it entirely. For example, Rurouni Kenshin might be considered one of the best animes of all time, but I cannot watch it without thinking about the fact that the guy who made it had so much child porn. Sours everything the fucker touched

    Like, maybe I could learn to separate the art from the artist, but… why would I? There’s already more art than I could ever consume made by people who don’t jerk it to kids

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      Wait what? … fucking hell man. I think there’s levels to me no longer watching an artist’s work …

      Some, I just overlook or if the stories aren’t substantiated or major. Child porn is just something else … man, I really like Kenshin too.

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            Seems like it. In total fairness, he didn’t say the pedophilia was cool, he just enjoyed working with the guy. Also it’s Japan, so he’s gonna have to work alongside pedophiles at some point

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              Yeah 😄 This is where putting boundarys becomes interesting. Do we avoid Oda as well?

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                Yeah, it’s hard to draw a line, which is why for me it’s just a matter of whether the artist puts me off the work entirely or not. I can watch One Piece without my mind interrupting me about Oda being kinda problematic. But I can’t, for example, read Sandman without thinking of all the rapin Gaiman did.

                And sorry if anyone is learning about ol Rapin Gaiman here

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    There are a lot of fair-minded takes in this thread which is surprising for me since this is lemmy where I’ve actually seen someone tell another person they are a piece of shit for even talking about Harry Potter lore.

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    I don’t have the time or energy to go through the lives of every single person involved with a game/show/movie I want to enjoy to see if anyone involved has problematic views. Like I’m going to see Project Hail Mary this weekend. If someone tells me at some point Ryan Gosling said some dumb shit while drunk or the book the film is based on has racist symbolism, I honestly don’t care. I’m watching and judging the film filled with hard work done by tons of different people.

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    I can usually separate art from the artist, given that the media in question doesn’t reflect their opinions/isn’t influenced by their actions.

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      Hitler was, if I’m being 100% honest, an OK painter. Terrible human, could have been a decent architectural artist.

      Woody Allen would be more topical and recent.

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      This is why I dropped Harry Potter. And also, I did drop Disturbed (aside from one song, that being Decadence) cause I don’t want to support a band whose lead vocalist literally autographed bombs that were used in children in Gaza.

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        And also, I did drop Disturbed (aside from one song, that being Decadence) cause I don’t want to support a band whose lead vocalist literally autographed bombs that were used in children in Gaza.

        Damn, missed that, too bad. welp at least there’s now more free space on my server.

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      That’s the deciding factor for me.

      I stopped listening to Lizzo so fucking fast because her actions and her art were in direct contradiction with each other.

      Being innappropriate with children will also make me stop consuming media from that person.