• BurnedDonutHole@ani.social
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    3 hours ago

    These religious people didn’t believe enough, they are lacking faith. I now pastor, imam, rabbi whatever its name can make that child grow that arm in no time. All they need to do is give up their earthly possessions and become faithful followers.

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    6 hours ago

    Don’t worry, the religious people will find a way to make this about themselves and/or their religion!

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    9 hours ago

    Side topic: I think Pascal’s Wager is stupid because what if there is a god and it only sends believers to hell? What if there is a good and it sends everyone to hell no matter what? What if there is a god and it didn’t make an afterlife and won’t interfere in actual life, so why even bother? What if there’s a flying spaghetti monster out there and that’s what god is?

    /rant

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      That’s why it’s pascal’s mugging. You’re getting screwed for something that, statistically speaking, is a shot in the dark.

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    9 hours ago

    So here’s the thing with today’s prosthetics: they kinda suck. For example this 2022 study reports that 44% of amputees rejected their prosthetic:

    Most responders complained about the comfort (60.87%, n = 14) as well as the weight of the device (52.17%, n = 12).

    What apparently goes a long way is accepting the missing limb and living with it. And I guess religion does help with that.

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      9 hours ago

      Of course, it’s all primitive dogshit, basically early 20th century sticks with fancier motors. Big deal.

      We need to figure out how to regrow limbs. A stupid salamander can do it.

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    Religious people aren’t bothered or surprised at all when their prayers don’t come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, they’re absolutely shocked and dismayed.

    My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. They’re just too stupid to realize it.

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    10 hours ago

    God took away the foreskin…

    Science will bring it back…

    I’m 14…

    And part of my dick is missing…

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      9 hours ago

      If god took your foreskin, it’s because He had a bigger plan for it. Probably the universe’s biggest tapestry.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    can we stop with this early 2010s debate?

    it’s bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons which creates record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.

    the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…

    Science and technology advancement by itself is dangerous if society doesn’t advance as well. regardless of the specific religion or lack thereof.

    Saying that as an absolute science nerd with a STEM PhD,

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        10 hours ago

        1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. It’s poetry in motion.

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        that debate probably existed much earlier. wouldn’t surprise me if some shaman’s were upset at those high tech craftmen with copper tools and those craftmen though the chaman was crazy…

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      Another way this discussion is bullshit and leads nowhere is that religion can also explain everything science does. Oh the kid got a prosthetic arm? Yes, because put engineers in his path, it was all part of His plan. Kid losing the arm was also part of the plan BTW.

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        religion in itself isn’t a bad thing, fervant fanaticism is the dangerous part.

        The atheist movement left a vacuum taken over by manosphere, and other toxic BS. How many cases are of scientific fanatics doing crimes against humanity for curiosity? unit 731? Mengele?

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    You’re missing part of the appeal. In the right column, there’s a huge pile of money going toward the design and production of that arm. In the left column, there’s a huge pile of money going to a faith healer’s private jet. Sure, functioning prosthetic arms are pretty cool, but private jets are super cool.

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    I look at it this way in terms of spirituallity… (Aka psychopath minded religion excluded.)

    Kid has 1 arm.

    Community that doesn’t have the means or knowledge for science helps promote hope and faith that keeps the kid going.

    Science does it’s thing, as it always has and creates an arm.

    Kid is able to get the new arm because the community and faith helped keep his spirits up so he didn’t suicide out of hopelessness.

    …The real enemy is the marketing and psychological manipulation tainting everything. It’s not just religions. It rapes everything for all that it can benefit from. Every demographic is observed and bled of all its authentic soul. From religions, to cultures, governments, arts, and even sciences.

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      All major religions have people doing stuff that is to the benefit of the higher-ups in the religion and is to the disadvantage to the common believer.

      But you’re right, it also happens outside of religion, like with capitalism and billionaires vs the working class.

      Religion is just a means to keep the plebs from revolting.

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          Haha yes. In the greater scheme of things it definitely is. The Christian higher-ups rake in way more money than they spend on charity. Churches are often exempt from taxes, so whatever they spend on charity would have been better spent if they simply paid their fair share to the community. Every cent they get is though lies and deceit. Charity is just a way to make themselves feel good and to uphold the image that they are Good Samaritans. Some individuals may be just that, but Christianity? Definitely no.

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      Why not foster hope through science? Religion is unneeded for that.

      Plus, if the situation was hopeless scientifically, the kid would be better off accepting reality than to endlessly hope for something that will never come. Just build with what he can instead of daydreaming about what can’t be.