Thought I’d create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people’s pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.

OQB @kiol@discuss.online

      • 0xDREADBEEF@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        7 months ago

        linux and the DEs dont make it easy to write apps for, this is a compositor/window manager/de issue to solve.

        Want to write an for gnome? Javascript or c++. Enjoy libadwaita. Want to write for kde? C++ only. Dont want to write js and you only know kotlin/swift/java/objc? Tough fucking shit, get fucked. Want to write rust? Not supported by kde or gnome ootb, the learning resources are bare etc. Oh and for kde you have to learn QT as well have fun:)

        Itd be cool if rust was the baseline standard for writing apps and was fully supported by the major DEs. I honestly cannot be bothered to learn C++ just to make a tiny app for my desktop, I will never use it again in my life because it is dying.

        • Sparrow@techhub.social
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          7 months ago

          @dreadbeef C bindings can be used on Rust so Gnome should be easier. I find QTs lack of AT-SPI to be a non starter. Also nothing says you need to use gnome or it if you’re making your own mobile first compositor.

          • 0xDREADBEEF@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            7 months ago

            right, but popular (and valid imo) complaint about mobile on linux is the lack of apps. GUI applications either have to bring their own GUI toolkit (slint/qt/etc) or use the one provided by the host (the DE on linux). Like all of linux, its very fragmented at the moment, and theres no clear leader

            • Sparrow@techhub.social
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              7 months ago

              @dreadbeef super valid point. I do believe having a Wayland compositor that just reformatted the app via ST-API would be a massive first step. It would force accessibility and dynamic sizing. Given only Gnome has ST-API built in. Qt is just a mess for accessibility

  • Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it
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    7 months ago

    I guess the biggest thing I’m missing right now is VR gaming.

    But since my VR googles need WMR to work, I wouldn’t be any better off with Windows 11 either.

      • Jestzer@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        I would be a lot more excited if I wasn’t worried it was going to cost +$1,099. I hope that I am wrong.

    • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Same. Quest 2. Fedora 43. 5700X3D / 9070 XT. Steam Link can’t find AMD video decoder on the pc to run. ALVR has death wobble-like reprojection jitter. WiVrn works when Envision feels like it, which is never as it constantly errors out compiling due to some dependency I can’t find for the life of me.

      I know compiling from source is preferred as “the linux way”, but I would like to spend more time actually using my pc than fixing it. There’s no reason the VR software needs to be recompiled just to change a setting. Maybe bake in the ability to change settings instead of hardcoding everything.

      Wine would be super helpful if they can find way to make older (2019 and older) Quickbooks run reliably. Lots of small businesses locked into old platforms because the accountants or the people who do accounting themselves can’t learn how to use anything else, and the linux alternatives require a phd in linuxology to learn and don’t offer the easy business-in-a-box functionality.

      Waydroid is neat, but poorly integrated in the desktop. It runs as a full screen app, and doesn’t task switch easily.

      Please, Valve, make Steam a 64-bit native client! So few people use 32-bit systems that the few that do probably aren’t running Steam to save on memory.

      Pipewire audio devices and webcam support needs to be smoother. I’ve never seen so much console shim hacks just to get a virtual webcam working.

      I haven’t even begun to try my NXT Gladiator flight stick in linux… that might be a whole nother can of trouble to open.

      • Girl Named ZERO (she/her)@piefed.zeromedia.vipEnglish
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        7 months ago

        I had the same issue as you with steam link and my 7800xt. Putting this in my launch args for SteamVR fixed it RADV_PERFTEST=video_decode,video_encode DRI_PRIME=1 ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/SteamVR/bin/vrmonitor.sh %command% and if you try that and get a different error code from before, ( I think it was like 1033) swap your mesa drivers to the freeworld variety. That should be sudo dnf swap mesa-vulkan-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers-freeworld .

        The only thing is, steamvr can’t display your desktop properly if you’re using wayland, it simply doesn’t support it. BUT here’s a cool project that can help you work around it, for some reason there’s currently a bug with their pipewire implementation (or something like that) such that you have to manually connect the display streams in the coppwr pipewire gui (helvum and carla don’t work), otherwise it’ll only show one frame of the display stream.

        y’know what, I’m actually gonna make a post about this, since it took me many hours of searching forums to find this solution.

  • redlemace@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    If I had to name a thing … My only issue is the lack of support from organizations. Drivers, though It’s getting better for printers/scanners etc. but like HW identifiers from banks etc are still windows (and mac). And no, i’m not gonna install windows or anything wine-like for it. (so far I’ve been able to take the alternative route/work around it)

    • Axolotl@feddit.it
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      7 months ago

      Probably the banks don’t even check HW identifiees, they see that you are using Linux and just decide to block you, at least, many reported that with many banks but it’s not a universal rule ofc

  • Sunspear@piefed.socialEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I’m using Fedora KDE, and for the first time in my life, an upgrade (42 to 43) completely borked the system, in a way that I couldn’t boot to anything else other than a kernel panic.

    I had to boot up a live USB, mount and chroot into the old system, and manually fix each duplicated / corrupted package. And it still caused every now and then some weird issue with dnf, so in the end I just reinstalled the entire OS.

    I feel like updates “offered” via a nice and convenient gui shouldn’t really do this out of nowhere - and I wasn’t the only one to report this in the past half year.

    • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 months ago

      I found on the 42->43 upgrade, Wine 32-bit was removed, and the upgrader errors out instead of fixing it. What I did to fix was immediately, manually (via dnf) uninstall wine*, then immediately run the upgrade again, and it fixed itself, finishing the upgrade with 64-bit Wine installed.

      • viral.vegabond@piefed.socialEnglish
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        7 months ago

        I ran into the same issue with errors every time I tried to update. This fix worked perfectly, thank you for taking the time to comment!

  • 42beansinapod@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 months ago
    1. It’s annoying to set up hibernate on Kubuntu and I can’t seem to figure out how to add it to the UI.
    2. i really miss the login UI of W11, just select pin, fingerprint, fido key or password. On kubuntu I have to unplug the fido key so it fails if I want to use my password. The UI also has no indication of wether I am entering the pin for the fido key or my linux password.
  • PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The only two issues I have at the moment are that Nemo is not a reliable file browser. It crashes almost daily. Some of its behavior is also frustrating when I go up a directory and it reshuffles my view and loses where I was. I deal with copious files and directories so this can be painful sometimes. Maybe need to play with Dolphin more or find another manager. Open to suggestions. I miss the expected behavior of the file manager in windows, but I don’t miss windows at all.

    That second issue is not having an easy method to manage my iPhone with Linux. Pulling images is awkward and always requires fiddling. No iTunes of course for backup and updates. I don’t like OTA updates. So I keep a W10 VM (with no route out) for that stuff.

    Otherwise, Linux works for everything else perfectly fine.

    Edit: Mint btw. I do love how Linux makes the OS a tool for me rather than a tool for them.

    • ludrol@programming.dev
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      7 months ago

      I think you should try out different file managers like GNOME files or Dolphin from KDE. One might solve your issue with iPhone

    • aloofPenguin@piefed.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Perhaps for the phone you could try something like KDE Connect. You have to be on the same wifi, but once connected, you can do things like remote input, sharing the clipboard, sending sms, sending files, and you can browse files from the PC.

      Some things I have listed here may differ as I am on an Android

      I am currently using dolphin, and I would highly recommend. I tried xfe before. It’s highly customizable, but opening files was king of annoying  (you had to manually input the path of the application)

      E: more information

      • PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Thanks! I did see a couple of tools like KDEC, but my main system is wired only. I suppose I could pop in a WiFi card and give that a whirl. If I can do some of those things that’d be nice. To move a file from Signal off my phone I had to use VLC. It worked, but yeesh.

        Appreciate the input!

        • aloofPenguin@piefed.worldEnglish
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          7 months ago

          no problem!

          P.S. You don’t need a WiFi card to use KDE Connect. I have it set up on my desktop (Ethernet only), and it works perfectly. I think you do have to make sure that it connects through the same router that the wired connection uses.

  • Jestzer@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I use Linux daily for work and personal tasks, but I sometimes have to resort to either a Windows VM or Windows running natively for the following:

    Hardware

    • Gaming with the Oculus Rift S
    • My third-party Xbox One wireless controller adapter for the non-bluetooth models
    • Brook controller adapters

    Software

    • Microsoft Office. I absolutely need the documents, spreadsheets, and presentations I work on to be interoperable with Windows users who exclusively use Microsoft Office. I am no position to ask them to change what software they use. OnlyOffice is the closest to achieving interoperability and its UI is very similar, but it still falls short. Multiple animations on 1 slide don’t carry over, none of the macros my coworkers have made seem to work, slide formatting may look different, and transformed cells don’t seem to automatically update.
    • Some games, such as Fortnite and CastleMinerZ either have bug-breaking issues or the publisher/anti-cheat sucks and blocks Linux. I don’t particularly care for these games, but I’m also not willing to give up game nights with lifelong friends over these. I’ll play them, suck at them, and have a good time. Then there are games such as Halo: MCC that mostly work, but then co-op campaign de-syncs.
    • Original Xbox and Xbox 360 development and modification tools/programs don’t work. I can’t even FTP a file over from Fedora without it being unrecognized. I obviously don’t expect any of this to change.

    And I desperately miss the native Stream Deck software. StreamController’s page-changing is very slow, in general is finicky, buggy, and less intuitive.

    • SparroHawc@lemmy.zip
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      7 months ago

      Unfortunately, the anti-cheat is a conscious decision by the developers to forego any sort of Linux compatibility. Anything that allows it to be run in Linux will likely result in the anti-cheat software being updated to block that workaround.

    • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      7 months ago

      This is certainly one of the strength/weaknesses of Lemmy. I wish there were a way to, I don’t know how to phrase it, federate the different community posts into one. So like in this case, replying to any of the three would be seen on any of the three threads. As an option at least.

  • luciole (he/him)@beehaw.org
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    7 months ago

    I’m pretty picky about my keyboard layout (a specific variant of bépo) and I’ve found it surprisingly awkward to use a layout that isn’t provided. I know that Bépo is typically included in Linux distros, but not the variant I prefer.

  • slurp@programming.dev
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    7 months ago

    The biggest difficulty is music production plugins. Some have a Linux version, some work via yabridge and wine (with some GUI bugs), and some don’t work at all.

    On top of that, my initial attempt was using Mint with all of the audio optimisations (including kernel) but it was stuttery and slow. Unfortunately, oving to another distro is not painless when you have to move all the plugins too but CachyOS has been much better so far.

    • Valsa@mander.xyz
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      7 months ago

      Native Linux audio plugins are frustratingly uncommon. I’m gradually trying to replace my Windows plugins with Linux native ones but it’s hard to do sometimes. My thing lately has been building my own replacements with plugdata.

      • slurp@programming.dev
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        7 months ago

        Plugdata seems like a deep rabbit hole, so I’m a little afraid of it but maybe that’s the next step.

        For now, I’ll share my latest Linux plugin find: https://store.harrisonaudio.com/all-products/harrison-32classic-channel-strip says it doesn’t support Linux but if you buy it and download the “old” version from here https://support.harrisonaudio.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19516617411613-Harrison-AVA-downloads-OLD-VERSIONS (it has the same version number as the most recent Windows copy), then you can activate it and it works well. I think I had to say no to linking iLok when purchasing. It’s crap that they’ve recently stopped supporting Linux (because they’ve moved to using iLok) but I’ve been happy with the plugin.

        • Valsa@mander.xyz
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          7 months ago

          Plugdata is a rabbit hole, but thankfully you only need to learn a few dozen of the most common objects to start making things. It took me a week of low effort learning before I could make patches without needing tutorials or outside help. The built-in documentation is all you need after that.

          Does that plugin have a distinct sound you like? To be honest I’ve never moved beyond my DAW’s stock eq and compressor. And god, iLok is a scourge.

    • mvirts@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I have the same problem with nixos. It’s partially solved but some plugin derivations are behind the times or something (or maybe I’m the problem and I can blame documentation :P)

  • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pubEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Fingerprint reader: that thing looks at me every day, obscenely suggesting I boot up Windows instead of Linux so I can stroke it gently and login conveniently.

    Oh, also battery life. Windows always has managed to extract more uptime from a single charge in my laptop.

    • aloofPenguin@piefed.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      I installed power-profiles-daemon on my laptop (and configured it in the settings) a while back and noticed a bit better battery life. Maybe it could also be the kernel? I updated mine a while back and there was also an improvement.

      • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pubEnglish
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        7 months ago

        I haven’t done recent comparisons, maybe it has gotten better these days. I use Ubuntu LTS, so I’ll have a good opportunity for before/after benchmarking this April.

  • aloofPenguin@piefed.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    The current Virtual Keyboard solution on KDE ( maliit ) isn’t working quite as much as i’d like. It only works on GTK apps, and only sometimes shows. When it does, it won’t relaunch after dismissal untill you kill it. Add to that it’s not as feature-dense as its windows alternatives.

    I hear that they are working on their own plasma-keyboard, and I hope that will fix most of these issues, but I haven’t had the tim to update my system.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    7 months ago

    I feel like my CPU isnt boosting. I check btop and turbostar and zcpu and they always report the cores at 3700hz or under. The 5600x should be able to boost a core up to 4.6gz.

    It doesnt matter cause my preformance is amazing already but i want to get maximum preformance from my hardware and boosting for single threaded preformance is huge.

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    Apple guy here, so no, I don’t use Linux. I have before, and I have off and on for about 30 years. I’m not subbed here, I browse /all and see a bunch of stuff. Thought this was worth replying to.

    Like I would never tell an Android user they can’t use a Mac because they wouldn’t get Universal Clipboard, but dammit, that feature is so useful. Of course we don’t have Linux phones but supposedly they’re coming, and I’d be super interested in one. At one point it was important to have an iPhone because of privacy and power. But we hit a plateau years ago and it’s all marketing bullshit now. Any flagship from the last 5-6 years is still pretty good. So until someone takes a step forward, might as well get a Linux phone, and it’s gonna beat the iPhone to privacy.

    So looking back to the Linux that exists today, I’d like to see an E2EE clipboard sync system that, for now, syncs between a Linxu desktop and a Linux laptop (or two of whichever). Shouldn’t matter which flavour of Linux either. Syncthing does similar stuff and it’s on Mac and Windows, so maybe something involving that? Then when people get phones, just run the service on the Linux phone.

  • randombullet@programming.dev
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    7 months ago

    I can’t cross play on Ghost of Tsushima.

    I can’t get my MT7927 wifi chip to work

    I still have issues with Snap… But I switched to an Arch distro to fix that problem