• PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk
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      well technically you don’t gotta

      It’s just very helpful for things like mortgages and bills and stuff.

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        You don’t gotta, but you gotta. Because for some reason some people decided it’s not a right to have food/water/shelter, it’s something you have to earn.

          • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlOP
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            From each according to their ability to each according to their need. Food, water, and shelter are needs and should be provided for unconditionally. We have the ability to fulfill these needs and not doing so is immoral. Some people are not able or willing to contribute to the collective good unless these needs have already been met, we all benefit from uplifting the destitute.

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                  Yes, and I’m very glad we have a social safety net. But that wouldn’t be available if everyone just figured they didn’t want to work and had a right to food and shelter without contributing.

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                    I don’t think you understand what I am saying. Human beings, as a group, are not just going to stop working just because the coercion of starvation and homelessness no longer exist. Human beings ache for purpose and community can provide that. People don’t hate labor, they hate being forced to labor for next to nothing in return. What you view as human laziness is better explained by alienation and hopelessness.

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        So you want to say they don’t have to, but they’re conditioned to do it. As if… as if you were trying to say that we live in the society