• 20cello@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    The country that has released the most greenhouse gas, and thus contributed most to climate change, is the United States.

    Fuck off

    • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 hours ago

      Why, it’s accurate, according to this

      The United States has emitted more CO2 than any other country to date: at around 400 billion tonnes since 1751, it is responsible for almost one-quarter of historical emissions; This exceeds the contribution of China, the world’s second-largest national contributor, by more than 1.5 times;

      Cumulatively the US has contributed far more to climate change then any other country, and since there’s no major net carbon sink to offset historic emissions, cumulative emissions are what matters.

      Most of that tonne of CO2 that was released from a factory in 1870 is still in the air today, warming the planet.

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      9 hours ago

      I mean, obviously this isn’t quite right, but also per person we are far and away the largest offender. But I agree, they can fuck off with pin the blame on the country: it’s just the wealthy elite - regular people aren’t doing much, it’s these rich fucks and their stupid schemes. Until we start putting the blame squarely on this group of people who have more power than any nation-state, we’re absolutely fucked.

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      13 hours ago

      Yeah, it’s cherry picked data. Although perhaps the US as whole produces more ghg’s, per capita it comes in about fifth behind Russia, Canada, Australia and Saudi Arabia respectively (and first is “Middle East A” which is a cohort that includes Saudi Arabia for some reason).

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions_per_capita

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-ghg-emissions


      *https://apnews.com/article/science-china-united-states-climate-and-environment-0ad4b8b987d74e15f7489c29371cbc83

      ^Where the claim comes from. AFAICT the claim focuses on consumption of products and includes the CO2 of creating that product (shipping as well?) to the states where it is then used. So, as China is one of the main manufacturers some/most of the carbon emissions created by those products is instead included in the United States emissions. In short, the US has the largest consumer base, so it has a larger carbon footprint.

      The question I have then is; is this not included in the per capita data? I unno, and I don’t really care enough to find out.

      https://www.globalcarbonproject.org/

      https://globalcarbonatlas.org/

      • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        6 hours ago

        The claim is probably about historic cumulative emissions which the US exceeds China by 1.5 times

        This IMO more accurately represents a countries contribution to climate change then the current years emissions since the CO2 from the past is largely staying in the air, heating the planet.