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    barely related to the current conversation

    There you go. Mocking.

    Nothing stops the mockery. The anti-book on paper mockery that is Trumpism.

    What the IRA started in year 2013 is in runaway. Russia can’t stop it. Nothing can stop it. It’s probably already too late. The addiction to entertainment and detachment from humanism is already wrecking all goodness long-term.

    (We The) People can no longer read 1995 book and connect that it is directly related to USA national mass mind in year 2025. You are only here to mock away goodness, that’s your agenda and your outcome. And nothing has been able to break the feedback looping of total mockery. Shit-posting is the mindset everyone craves. It’s been non-stop shit-posting growth since July 6, 2011. The Apple iPhone screen size (The Medium) is the meme message of minds.

    Your mocking won the wrecking of the world before I ever created a single message on Lemmy. Vince Gilligan in February 2025 at the Writers Guild of America spelled it out: Social media cesspool. Shit-posting shit-commenting always wins. Mocking and mockery, total mockery wins any debate (hence, Trump wins any challenge, Rupert Murdoch wins any adult education, Joe Rogan wins, mockery wins). Carl Sagan book printed in year 1995, Neil Postman books, Dr. Bandy X Lee’s books, always rejected.

     

     

    Writers Guild of America
    Vince Gilligan speech
    February 15, 2025
    https://youtu.be/TkteSxVIM1A?t=648

    10:48
    there’s no simple answer for how we might change that. Though, if there were, I bet it would have something to do with climbing up out of the cesspool that is social media and actually listening to each other.

    11:07
    But I don’t know how to make that happen. So, I’ll stick to my wheelhouse. As a writer speaking to a room full of writers, I have a proposal…

     

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      It not mocking its a fact, gish galloping with page long expects that may have a sentence or two related is not an effective tactic if your actual trying to convert me to your cause and not just intellectually masturbating. If you aren’t anti-intellectual you can take the time to extract the relevant points and present them cogently

      What the IRA started in year 2013 is in runaway. Russia can’t stop it. Nothing can stop it. It’s probably already too late. The addiction to entertainment and detachment from humanism is already wrecking all goodness long-term.

      Again you seem to place the blame entirely on Russia and discount the effect of the US’s equivalent of the IRA: Eglin AFB and its effect on the population, and other western backed project such as Cambridge Analytica

      Social media cesspool.

      So you’ve somewhat correctly disorganised the problem as big tech(if not capitalism as a whole) the only counter to big tech is socialist organisation a real concrete action you can take instead of just hoping people will magically begin following the ‘27 leaders’ which is just wish-casting on your part, the system cannot be reformed it needed to be smashed and a new bottom-up power structure put in place

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        It not mocking its a fact, gish galloping

        You could have independently located Dr. Bandy X. Lee’s nonfiction serious book printed on paper at book stores and public library. That isn’t “Gish galloping” in Lemmy commenting, that’s your inability to escape the simulation (off-screen to a book printed on paper sitting on physical book shelves). You have had YEARS to take seriously Donald Trump’s mental disorders and observe the avoidance of nonfiction books (relevant books) on paper. Years of being able to observe that the population (everyone) is avoiding getting on the same page at the same time (Dr. Lee’s book pages).

        You fixate on me, as you are here (active measures or useful banality agent) to mock my message and drive me away from calling out that The Emperor has no clothes, and We The People are not calling out that the Emperor has no clothes. We are in feedback looping of tree after tree (streaming memes, recency bias) with no forest-level self-awareness. We have no perspective at the level of Marshall McLuhan or Neil Postman.

        People do not desire authentic progress and goodness, We The People endlessly desire laughs and memes, amusement and joking about Donald Trump’s mental disorders. That’s what wrecked the USA and next the total world. Endlessly joking about an 80 year old man who stands in all media system spotlights. Endlessly laughing at Donald Trump addictions to media. Infinite Jest: attraction to Trump LOL cow milking.

         

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            Why do you keep ignoring my direct questions?

            1. “Forest for the trees” I’ve referenced multiple times

            2. The Big Picture. Everyone. “We The People” multiple times.

            3. You are a banality agent, active measures. Here to drive me away from posting in public about THE PUBLIC.

             

            • “We do not know whether Hitler is going to found a new Islam. (He is already on the way; he is like Mohammed. The emotion in Germany is Islamic; warlike and Islamic. They are all drunk with a wild god.)” - Carl Jung

            • “No nation keeps its word. A nation is a big, blind worm, following what? Fate perhaps. A nation has no honour, it has no word to keep. … Hitler is himself the nation. That incidentally is why Hitler always has to talk so loud, even in private conversation — because he is speaking with 78 million voices.” - Carl Jung. During an interview with H. R. Knickerbocker (1939)

              • In Donald Trump’s case, “meme so loud”. His spoken voice isn’t really that loud like Hitler. But Trump’s meme voice is dominating and role model.

             

            points we’ve already agreed on

            Show me where you posted Dr. Bandy X Lee and quoted her on social media. As you sound like a Trump Fan who thinks LOL LOL LOL laughing at disturbed mental people is amusing to you.

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              “Forest for the trees” I’ve referenced multiple times

              You’re not answering my questions because you think that would be ‘missing the firest for the trees’ can you explain how? without further explanation this is an incongruous statement that seems like pure defelection

              Show me where you posted Dr. Bandy X Lee and quoted her on social media. As you sound like a Trump Fan who thinks LOL LOL LOL laughing at disturbed mental people is amusing to you.

              I don’t agree with Dr Lee who believes the US can be reformed by removing a single dangerous leader. Trump is not the root of the problem he is a symptom of the US system which can not be reformed, socialist revolution is the only solution,

              I’ve posted many times deriding Trump, some quotes from my previous comments of me saying that:

              you:

              Donald Trump is easily influenced and gullible. He believes fiction storytelling put out by the Kremlin

              me:

              True but he also believes the last person he spoke to not just Putin exclusively, he believes the fiction put out by the UAF and his own government

              quotes anything I’ve posted that would lead you to believe I’m a ‘trump worshipper’

              You avoiding my questions with deflection is engaging in anti-intellectualism, you aren’t less guilty of it than the average poster because you pad out your posts with repetitive and barely tangential information

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                you pad out your posts with repetitive and barely tangential information

                To your egoism, it is irrelevant. You live in filter-bubbles. I’ve also brought up “active measures” a couple times here in this thread. It is entirely possible you are here mocking into the total mockery and not sincere in any way. That you do understand the relevance of these quotes and your entire screen game is active measures.

                 

                Same Page at the Same Time

                “The term filter bubble was coined by internet activist Eli Pariser circa 2010. Pariser’s book The Filter Bubble (2011) predicted that individualized personalization by algorithmic filtering would lead to intellectual isolation and social fragmentation” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

                 

                • “The phenomenon we have witnessed in Germany was nothing less than outbreak of epidemic insanity… No one knew what was happening to him, least of all of the Germans, who allowed themselves to be driven to the slaughterhouse by their leading psychopaths like hypnotized sheep.” - Dr. Carl Jung, After the Catastrophe, 1945

                Filter-bubble Germany 1933.

                • “The other nine, decent, hard-working, ordinarily intelligent and honest men, did not know before 1933 that Nazism was evil. They did not know between 1933 and 1945 that it was evil. And they do not know it now. None of them ever knew, or now knows, Nazism as we knew and know it; and they lived under it, served it, and, indeed, made it.” ― Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45. Published year 1955.

                 

                Meme app users always avoid: Same Page at the Same Time of SERIOUS IMPORTANT NONFICTION reality. People get on the same page all the time for sports celebrity, GTA6 video game release, entertainment, amusements. But not nonfiction reality.

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                  You live in a filter bubble: you believe Russia uses active measures to manipulate public opinion, it does. But you are ignoring the active measures the also US employs to manipulate people away from the socialist organisation which is the only thing that can defeat the ruling class control and anti-intellectualism in both countries and others

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                    you are ignoring the active measures the also US employs to manipulate people

                    More active measures from you.

                    Rupert Murdoch USA

                    I have said “Rupert Murdoch”, USA media person.

                    • Rupert Murdoch owns a 340,000-acre cattle property known as Beaverhead Ranch located in southwest Montana near Yellowstone National Park. United States of America.

                    • The New York Post, USA. Fox News HDTV USA.

                    Active measures from you to drive me from public posting about public media.

                     

                    Reddit Media USA, California

                    Reddit media is a controlled censored simulation of opposition. Fake resistance to Trump. I have mentioned USA California Reddit media several times.

                     

                    Twitter Elon Musk USA

                    I haven’t mentioned Twiitter much in this posting because all of this is tiny-short commenting and full nonfiction books printed on paper are far richer and discuss the issues better than low-effort commenting messages. Twitter is USA media active measures. It is the avoidance of relevant serious nonfiction books on paper in the conditioned mass man mindsets of USA that I keep circling as elephants in the room.

                    Relevant. Nonfiction. Books. On. Paper.

                     

                    Joe Rogan USA

                    Joe Rogan is active measures against nonfiction serious books printed on paper. United States of America active measures. There are plenty more examples of people promoting what Carl Sagan described as “celebration of ignorance” media. Active measures against sustained focus on important serious relevant nonfiction books on paper.

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                quotes anything I’ve posted that would lead you to believe I’m a ‘trump worshipper’

                Silhouette Void.

                It is what you avoid. Show me where IN PUBLIC YOU STAND UP - you are quoting Marshall McLuhan, Neil Postman, Carl Sagan, Andrew Postman, Peter Pomerantsev, Dr. Bandy X Lee, Dr. Eva Berger… related to MAGA / Trumpism / Rupert Murdoch / Putinism / Surkov students media patterns. Your ability to match well-written though-out widely published ideas to the anti-reality crisis of year 2026.

                It is your lack of alarm at the forest-level bonfires of nonfiction books printed on paper that spells it all out. You are here to drag it all down into tree tree tree and avoid the forest. Superficial, banalize it, mock it.

                I created a public web page for you:

                https://www.criticalmediatheory.com/Media_Ecology/Silhouette_Void

                Silhouette Void. It is what you avoid.

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                    Nothing in this post or the links show how I’m a ‘trump-worshipper’ again you’re deflecting

                    I asked you to show me where IN PUBLIC you have stood up to media cults. Worship of media systems and media content. Show me your past history where you called this at. Fox News HDTV cultists, Rupert Murdoch’s global media cults, etc.

                    it is what you avoid. “Silhouette Void”, that defines the era. People who prize low-effort commenting and pressing “like button” and posting reaction-images in reactionary ways is the crisis of media ecology. You show all the symptoms of worshiping the mechanisms of power that Donald Trump / MAGA movement controls. Media addiction to low-effort commenting interaction. Any time day or night you can come to media systems and comment about your Donald Trump topic.

                    Again: Show me where you called out cults of media addicts in public? Where you showed public concern for the MAGA cult and not just your own personal self commenting today on meme platforms.

                     

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                this is an incongruous statement that seems like pure defelection

                I am deflecting to what? Printed books on paper by Carl Sagan, printed books on paper by Neil Postman, printed books on paper by Dr. Bandy X Lee and her 27 leaders.

                You want my personal words to discuss trees of commenting, threads of trees of messages. I am very clear that my focus is on the NATO, USA, Pale Blue Dot, the entire planet, media ecology of nonfiction books vs. meme apps. The World Wide Web and how cults of decorations on messages, “meme decorations”, are a danger. The Meme Decoration is The Message. https://www.themediumisthemassage.com/the-book/

                 

                TLDR: ELI4; Lemmy meme-washing is the problem. Reddit is the center of the cult of Trump mockery. Joke-wrapping joke-washing of Trump for mental health memes and jokes is the crisis of August 2026.

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                  You’re deflecting answering direct questions

                  You are feeding into the trump-meme-complex with your gish galloping posts instead of engaging with things that can actual oppose the system he’s a symptom off(big tech, anti-itelleculism)

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                    You are feeding into the trump-meme-complex with your gish galloping posts

                    You want personal attention. Active measures. One on one ego stroking. Interaction. Interactive fiction storytelling, ARG on screens, via Lemmy commenting back and forth. Always avoiding the public library and relevant serious nonfiction books. I often even choose to cite dead authors (Carl Sagan dead, Marshall McLuhan dead, Neil Postman dead) to even show that the Trump MAGA USA August 2026 media interaction screen high-speed media problems can be described before it became a growing crisis July 6, 2011.

                    I keep discussing media systems. Adult education systems. Adult learning systems. Where adults get their information and how they relate to understanding that information.

                    Your addiction (or active measures promoting) is commenting, low-effort commenting, to have active measures against paper-printed books in the nonfiction selection of the media ecology and Trump mental health section of the public library. Low-effort high-speed electric media commenting, following Elon Musk leadership. What Carl Sagan described in year 1995 nonfiction book printed on paper: “The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less)”