• brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Age restrictions and id verification side step the real issue that they don’t want to deal with.

    Actually regulating the companies making these addictive, harmful sites.

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      The real problem is children on the Internet. The real solution is getting parents to use parental control software.

      If you’re a full grown adult using Facebook, much less addicted to it, ya get what ya deserve.

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    Yep, that’s the plan.

    It should be obvious by now that governments don’t give one fuck about protecting kids. Not one single fuck.

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      Well… Fucking and children and people associated with power … We have learned there is no real “not” in this Chain…

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    It’s a feature, not a bug. Not sure why so many headlines keep acting like it’s some kind of accident.

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      To reinforce the plausible deniability of politicians of course. It’s all about manufacturing consent.

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      We’ll just continue to make our own internet with blackjack and hookers. Too much knowledge is already out.

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            I assume unless they just make whitelist of sites you can connect to you can find workarounds.

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            What’re the data rates like on meshtastic and ham? Wasn’t looking great when I briefly looked at it.

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              Meshtastic uses LoRa, so slow speeds but far distance. A better choice is reticulum, this combines LoRa, Wifi HaLow, Wifi 2.4 & 5 GHz and BLE together into one network stack. So in a city we could have faster data speeds all sharing WiFi and rural areas that currently need satellite we could have a connection over far distances wirelessly. Reticulum is also encrypted, meshtastic is not

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              I mean they’re not crazy good by any means, but they could be improved upon. More so speaking of mesh, ham is its own mystery in my brain.

              Just examples really of networking outside of the normal infrastructure.

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                Okay yeah that was the impression I had too. I was excited when I first heard about it but from what I read it didn’t seem like you could do much with it. I’m still interested in playing around with it though if I find some free time. Ham didn’t really interest me as it requires a license which kind of defeats the purpose of this imo.

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                  Agreed on that front as well.

                  There has been some progress with data on meshtastic as well as range. For what it is in its current state, it’s still pretty awesome imo

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      The Internet is just a bunch of AS running open source protocols on commercially available infrastructure. It’s doing fine. The hosted commercial services might be fucked, but you can run your own.

      You’re using such a service right now.

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    It’s frustrating that they act like we have privacy right now. The whole situation is typical absurd human behavior.

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    Algorithm-based, ad supported social media is a public health crisis and damages people of all ages. It should be destroyed. At that point we don’t have to worry about it’s effect on kids or them using VPNs to circumvent age restrictions.

    Seems like a more effective solution to me.

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      With a bit of infrastructure, today you can detect and disrupt any VPN session. This is coming soon to your country, too.

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        You also can avoid all of these disruptions by camouflaging your packets as some generic protocol, which is already quite easy e.g. in Mullvad by using shadowsocks and ai disruption (randomising, among others, packet size and intervals). In fact, it will always be impossible to detect VPNs without deep packet inspection - and that would require banning ALL internet traffic encryption, which seems unrealistic because of the astronomical downsides, even in today’s political situation.

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          without deep packet inspection

          DPI is being used actively in a lot of countries including where I live, sadly

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            The world is going to shit… also, I am asking out of pure curiosity - how does DPI interact with encryption where you live? Is encryption just plain illegal or what?

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              encryption is legal, DPI is used to block specific websites that are deemed illegal in this country like pornography, gambling, “national security” related (North Korean stuff mainly), piracy, etc. for context where I live is South Korea.

              attached a machine translated screenshot of warning.or.kr (where blocked pages get redirected to)

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            Yeah, I didn’t know about that, that sounds terrifying. At least I was still right in saying that they cannot block VPNs completely - you can still send traffic through HTTPS or DNS requests, but it is just too slow for most applications, however definitely enough to be able to communicate with other people in times of censorship. Based on my research Russia is also experimenting with CIDR whitelisting, which is even worse but does have the huge drawback of basically breaking the internet except for a few large sites.