Well did you see my list? And are there any consequences, is Poland forced to change by Europe or threatened to be kicked out? No, because no one cares. As I said, Turkiye is unable to join the EU because of things that are basically the same as Poland, but one is told that they need to improve, the other is not.
The actual fascist stuff you listed was very recent, and the rest is conflating a bunch of less desirable things like religion and conservative farmers with outright fascism.
Maybe irrelevant but who the fuck decided that Turkey is to be called Turkiye now?
If you’re speaking English it’s fucking Turkey. Otherwise better start calling Germany Deutschland, Finland Suomi, Greece Ellada and so on.
Thanks for the downvote :)
But on point, it’s not the same, is it? Turkiye is just Turkey in the Turkish language, it’s not a change of the country’s name like going from Burma to Myanmar.
It’s more like saying Deutschland instead of Germany.
In fact for that one there’s a bit of a history, the view being that Myanmar was more inclusive as opposed to Burma which relates to the Bamar ethnic group. And it was the UK that primary opposed the change from the colonial era name, which brings us again to the issue of colonialism and the fact that the English think they can tell the world what to do because they control the narrative on the internet.
The Turkish Government decided that they’d like the English translation of their name to be Turkiye, and asked the world nicely.
The world, for whom it is absolutely no inconvenience whatsoever, went “fair enough, sure.”
If the majority of people are now writing Turkiye, it just means the majority of people are not utterly wearisome bellends; consider this a rare good news story.
Timmy, Turkey illegally occupies half of Cyprus since 1974 - to name just one of all the other “nice” things they’re doing - so them “asking the world nicely and the world going fair enough sure” is a feel-good little story you can tell your feeble-minded friends.
Then again you sound like a Brit so your country is responsible for all this with your great divide and conquer tactics that fucked the entire world so you might want to keep your mouth shut altogether.
What you wrote is certifiably wrong. Turkey asked to be called ‘Türkiye’. Note that you didn’t call them the correct name, despite claiming that it’s no bother for you. Because ‘ü’ isn’t a letter of the English alphabet, so the so-called ‘English name’ is not English.
He’s talking about the “no one gives a shit because they’re part of the EU” line. If you think that you haven’t been paying attention
Well did you see my list? And are there any consequences, is Poland forced to change by Europe or threatened to be kicked out? No, because no one cares. As I said, Turkiye is unable to join the EU because of things that are basically the same as Poland, but one is told that they need to improve, the other is not.
What are you talking about? The Court of Justice of the EU ruled against Poland and fined them for [~half a billion €}(https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-finds-poland-guilty-in-rule-of-law-dispute/). The EU started an Article 7 procedure against them and stopped it after the new government started to implement changes.
Oh, and the new government came into power through voting, I didn’t know that’s something “clearly fascist” countries do.
Your list was kind of shit.
The actual fascist stuff you listed was very recent, and the rest is conflating a bunch of less desirable things like religion and conservative farmers with outright fascism.
Maybe irrelevant but who the fuck decided that Turkey is to be called Turkiye now? If you’re speaking English it’s fucking Turkey. Otherwise better start calling Germany Deutschland, Finland Suomi, Greece Ellada and so on.
I honestly think that should be the default.
Agreed, but for some weird reason the fact that Turkey is the only one where somehow everyone suddenly abides by their whim pisses me off.
I’m pretty sure “everyone” did it for Myanmar as well. And in Germany we changed from Weißrussland to Belarus.
Thanks for the downvote :) But on point, it’s not the same, is it? Turkiye is just Turkey in the Turkish language, it’s not a change of the country’s name like going from Burma to Myanmar. It’s more like saying Deutschland instead of Germany. In fact for that one there’s a bit of a history, the view being that Myanmar was more inclusive as opposed to Burma which relates to the Bamar ethnic group. And it was the UK that primary opposed the change from the colonial era name, which brings us again to the issue of colonialism and the fact that the English think they can tell the world what to do because they control the narrative on the internet.
The Turkish Government decided that they’d like the English translation of their name to be Turkiye, and asked the world nicely.
The world, for whom it is absolutely no inconvenience whatsoever, went “fair enough, sure.”
If the majority of people are now writing Turkiye, it just means the majority of people are not utterly wearisome bellends; consider this a rare good news story.
Majority? Not really, no. Haven’t seen that outside some lemmings.
Well in that case it should hardly be a concern then.
Timmy, Turkey illegally occupies half of Cyprus since 1974 - to name just one of all the other “nice” things they’re doing - so them “asking the world nicely and the world going fair enough sure” is a feel-good little story you can tell your feeble-minded friends. Then again you sound like a Brit so your country is responsible for all this with your great divide and conquer tactics that fucked the entire world so you might want to keep your mouth shut altogether.
TIL six year olds use Lemmy.
Nothing on the subject then. Gotcha
What you wrote is certifiably wrong. Turkey asked to be called ‘Türkiye’. Note that you didn’t call them the correct name, despite claiming that it’s no bother for you. Because ‘ü’ isn’t a letter of the English alphabet, so the so-called ‘English name’ is not English.
I hate to break it to you, but the diaeresis (two-dots diacritic) is, in fact, a standard part of modern English orthography.
But yes, I was lazy when writing. I’ve slapped myself on the wrist.
Excuse me? Turkey actively occupies half of Cyprus which is an EU member.