Everyone should learn how grow a garden and forage, and anyone who eats meat should kill, butcher and eat at least one animal. People would have more respect for life, nature, and where their food comes from.
A few weeks back I was in the meat department and walked by two ladies. one probsbly 80+ and the othet 60ish. Mom and daughter I guessed, the older lady walks past the split breast (with all the bones) and she says abruptly, “Thats disgusting!” and the younger lady does a half eye roll and walks her to the breast meat. I had such a good chuckle with that, it was kind of adorable. But,
you can tell who is familiar with raising meat animals, and who has been sheltered from it.
I agree, I think most folks should understand not only how meal is fully raised ans butchered, but also feel the same for veggies. In my personal expierence, in learning both, I do find I have a lot of reapect for animals and nature. Im also often vegan, but not always
Don’t confuse what I’m saying as condoning killing for fun. That’s repugnant to me. But killing for food is, in my opinion, morally right.
This decision also doesn’t take place in a vacuum, and given how much environmental damage modern farming does I have reduced my meat intake to very little.
Other examples of morally right killing, in my opinion, are culling wild animals where an imbalance of predators exists, and putting people guilty of serious crimes to death (in the case of incontrovertible evidence)
I don’t think it’s never wrong to kill, but I don’t think the state can hold itself or be held to high enough standards to prevent innocents from being killed.
I agree with this. Murdering other people for any reason is dangerous rhetoric. It only sounds okay when people believe they’re capable and in control of that judgement.
How about also making their own clothing and shoes, and building their own cars? Might as well respect where their clothes and transportation come from.
Mainly those are skills that take time to master, and we live in an age of specialization where we make a living by doing specific things well and getting paid by people who do things we don’t do. I’ve learned a few skills related to home maintenance and remodeling because I found them interesting. Years ago I rebuilt the engine in my old VW bus. That was enough car mechanic work for me in this lifetime. Just my thing. I’m also not interested in raising and butchering animals, and I find vegetable gardening tedious. Just a different point of view I guess. I don’t see any ethical problems with paying somebody else to prepare my meat, or put out fires, or arrest burglars, replace roofing, etc.
Everyone should learn how grow a garden and forage, and anyone who eats meat should kill, butcher and eat at least one animal. People would have more respect for life, nature, and where their food comes from.
This absolutely - eating meat without being willing to kill an animal and prepare it is, in my opinion, morally wrong.
A few weeks back I was in the meat department and walked by two ladies. one probsbly 80+ and the othet 60ish. Mom and daughter I guessed, the older lady walks past the split breast (with all the bones) and she says abruptly, “Thats disgusting!” and the younger lady does a half eye roll and walks her to the breast meat. I had such a good chuckle with that, it was kind of adorable. But,
you can tell who is familiar with raising meat animals, and who has been sheltered from it.
I agree, I think most folks should understand not only how meal is fully raised ans butchered, but also feel the same for veggies. In my personal expierence, in learning both, I do find I have a lot of reapect for animals and nature. Im also often vegan, but not always
Oh yes, on the plants too … things like working with muck spreading, harvesting, etc, all by hand woild help people appreciate what they eat
As a meat eater I agree
Being willing to kill something does not make it morally right either.
Maybe by your moral framework it doesn’t.
Don’t confuse what I’m saying as condoning killing for fun. That’s repugnant to me. But killing for food is, in my opinion, morally right.
This decision also doesn’t take place in a vacuum, and given how much environmental damage modern farming does I have reduced my meat intake to very little.
Other examples of morally right killing, in my opinion, are culling wild animals where an imbalance of predators exists, and putting people guilty of serious crimes to death (in the case of incontrovertible evidence)
I don’t think it’s never wrong to kill, but I don’t think the state can hold itself or be held to high enough standards to prevent innocents from being killed.
Not a single state, no. I agree with the hangings done by the Nuremberg Trials, which was a multi-state effort with good evidencial rigor
Fair. I can agree with that.
I agree with this. Murdering other people for any reason is dangerous rhetoric. It only sounds okay when people believe they’re capable and in control of that judgement.
We should be willing to eat the people we murder.
Most people don’t even know where water comes from.
Most people wear clothes despite not knowing how to sew, weave, or spin thread.
You haven’t really lived until you’ve used a drop spindle.
They’re so annoying!! Even as a kid I was bad with them, and I had nice fine motor control back then!
I find it meditative. I can spin all day.
Water?? … you mean like in the toilet?
How about also making their own clothing and shoes, and building their own cars? Might as well respect where their clothes and transportation come from.
I mean, yeah. Why not?
Mainly those are skills that take time to master, and we live in an age of specialization where we make a living by doing specific things well and getting paid by people who do things we don’t do. I’ve learned a few skills related to home maintenance and remodeling because I found them interesting. Years ago I rebuilt the engine in my old VW bus. That was enough car mechanic work for me in this lifetime. Just my thing. I’m also not interested in raising and butchering animals, and I find vegetable gardening tedious. Just a different point of view I guess. I don’t see any ethical problems with paying somebody else to prepare my meat, or put out fires, or arrest burglars, replace roofing, etc.
You’re being pedantic about my old fashioned idea.
Yeah but it’s good old-fashioned pedantry, as our ancestors would have wanted.