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I didn't realize the facebook execs Mozilla acqui-hired last year have been promoted! I was assuming they were still just heading the ads division of Mozilla, but oh boy, I fucking wish.

Now the former Senior VP of Marketing of facebook (2008-2022, the finest years of facebook) is the CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER of the entire Mozilla.

And the former VP of Ads in Facebook (2012-2022), is now the Senior VP of Product of Mozilla.

Let me repeat this:

The guy who used to lead the facebook team that was literally "advertising to teenagers based on their emotional state" is now the guy who decides the direction of Firefox as a product. But hey, let's keep giving Mozilla the benefit of the doubt uh? I'm sure these people-who-should-be-on-trial-in-the-hague are going to do great things for the community!

edit: Bradwood has been promoted to Chief Business Officer of the Mozilla Corporation, not Chief Financial Officer, my bad

edit2: as @FormularSumo@social.vivaldi.net pointed out, even if Graham Mudd's title is "SVP of Product", the bio in his page talks about him as the SVP of Product for the Mozilla Ads division specifically. So it may be the case that he hasn't been promoted and he's just on top of the ad division. That being said, Mozilla doesn't have a Chief Product Officer anymore, and that makes Mudd the most senior product person in the entire Mozilla organization, outranking the VP that seems to be org-wide.

Facebook’s Senior VP of Marketing
is now
Mozilla’s Chief Financial Officer

Facebook’s VP of Ads
is now
Mozilla’s Senior VP of Product
(The apparent most senior position)

  • Hairyfishnuts@feddit.onlineEnglish
    14·
    16 hours ago

    I’ve been with these boys since the Netscape days. This is about the last thing I wanted to do but I’m just gonna have ta bail on FF. Damnit man.

    • mursejoy@lemmy.zip
      3·
      8 hours ago

      Dude what do I go to now? I avoid Google as much as possible. I use Safari on Mac but my main PC is Linux. I’ve been using FF for a looooong time. I will not participate in anything Meta related.

    • Mucki@feddit.org
      2·
      15 hours ago

      The good thing is you are certainly not alone. Just look at all the rather new options that have emerged ever since it became clear that Mozilla is failing itself and “us”. Don’t be sad, things change every know and then, and freedom is waiting for you. This is a libregang post.

  • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de
    86·
    1 day ago

    I’m looking forward to the long articles shedding light on how Mozilla was slowly corrupted by it’s own success and ultimately failed.

    • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
      21·
      23 hours ago

      It’s just so obviously been happening a while now. Good thing Waterfox and Librefox exist.

      • univers3man@piefed.worldEnglish
        50·
        23 hours ago

        They only exist as long as Firefox and Mozilla exist. They all depend on Mozilla for updates, patching and core functionality.

        • YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 hours ago

          Yeah but Firefox only exists because of the large community willing to work on it. That community can go to Waterfox or Librefox and continue development under better leadership.

        • Mac@mander.xyzEnglish
          191·
          22 hours ago

          Yep, and browsers are apparently notoriously hard to build and maintain. We’re cooked.

          • Brummbaer@pawb.social
            4·
            16 hours ago

            Because the specs are a pile of shit. I can’t prove it, but I’m pretty sure that google helped with that.

            • XLE@piefed.socialOPEnglish
              6·
              8 hours ago

              I can be of assistance. From the World Wide Web consortium, the group who creates the Web standards:

              This specifies a browser API for the measurement of advertising performance.

              Editors:

              • Andrew Paseltiner (Google)
              • Andy Leiserson (Mozilla)
              • Benjamin Case (Meta)
              • Benjamin Savage (Meta)
              • Charlie Harrison (Google)
              • Martin Thomson (Mozilla)

              Yes Mozilla itself was working with Facebook back as far as 2022, and was basing this work on their telemetry which was pretty controversial back in 2018.

              • Brummbaer@pawb.social
                3·
                7 hours ago

                Damn, the web really is just a big pile of advertising shit now.

                Thanks - I guess we really need to come up with alternatives.

          • scytale@piefed.zipEnglish
            9·
            20 hours ago

            I’m waiting to see if Ladybird takes off. They have some questionable sponsors, but you need money to get started. Hopefully they stick to their guns of being independent if they become successful.

            • Lumisal@lemmy.world
              2·
              7 hours ago

              Ladybird has both questionable sponsors and questionable leadership and past drama.

              Servo is the one I’m excited for.

        • XLE@piefed.socialOPEnglish
          6·
          17 hours ago

          And Mozilla will exist as long as Google needs to have a functional opponent they can point to. Firefox is maintained on Google’s dollar.

    • lime!@feddit.nu
      22·
      24 hours ago

      it’s two separate entities, a corporation and a nonprofit.

      i don’t know why it’s like that.

      • iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.appEnglish
        22·
        23 hours ago

        In the USA there are restrictions on what types of activities a not-for-profit company can do. For example, you can’t pay a not-for-profit to do work for you. So a common approach is to make a for-profit company owned by the not-for-profit. It will pay staff and any bills associated with work for hire or from selling stuff, and donate any money left over to the not-for-profit. Since companies are taxed based on profits, and donations are tax deductible, it lets companies get around the restrictions.

        It sounds dodgy as fuck, but I worked for an open source company structured like this and it is apparently common. The COO even had a letter from the state in a file stating that it was okay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • palordrolap@fedia.io
      39·
      23 hours ago

      My concern is that if Firefox disappears entirely, all of its forks will also disappear. None of the current forks’ dev teams are set up to be full maintainers of the whole product. They only take what Mozilla release and modify from there.

  • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
    2·
    15 hours ago

    What regulatory body could have the authority to audit Mozilla, recognize that there’s suits cashing in millions at the expense of the common good, and do some spring cleaning ?

    • XLE@piefed.socialOPEnglish
      12·
      23 hours ago
      • If you’re looking for a drop-in Firefox replacement, WaterFox is good.
      • LibreWolf is great for privacy by default.
      • Tor Browser is something you only want to use if it’s alongside using Tor.
      • Eternal192@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        3·
        10 hours ago

        Already switched to WaterFox when they announced AI in FireFox and already have LibreWolf set up just in case and tor is still in my test phase, need some more time with it.

        Used FireFox since 2006-2007 and was happy to learn it has other variants, but hate that these corporate bastards have to ruin everything.