Hi guys,

I wanted to ask you about our local communities here. I feel like a lot of them are not really active, and the most active one (like Conservative) has mostly locked posts, so people cant participate in discussions.

I wanted to get some input from you guys, what do you think? Should we have communities with locked posts so people cant comment? Does it still serve a purpose? Or should communities always allow discussions? My own opinion is that they should.

And should we clean up communities and remove inactive ones, making more room for local discussions?

The reason I started thinking about this is because I noticed that some other instances remove posts that are completely legal to discuss. They are just removed because admins/moderators dont like their content. Which is exactly like on reddit then.

  • tal@lemmy.today
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    10 months ago

    I wanted to get some input from you guys, what do you think? Should we have communities with locked posts so people cant comment? Does it still serve a purpose? Or should communities always allow discussions? My own opinion is that they should.

    I don’t have any objection to them as long as people aren’t trying to “eat up” community names en masse or something, and I don’t think that there’s some raging torrent of people wanting to run discussion conservative communities that this is blocking. I mean, I’m not really very interested in no-discussion communities myself, but I don’t think that they cause any particular harm. There are probably some people who are just fine with an RSS-feed-style thing. And I’d expect that a minority of communities would fit my particular tastes.

    I don’t have any objection to the admins saying that they don’t like it as a matter of policy, though I think that in practice, it’s going to likely result in the mod placing restrictive rules for discussion (like, I’m assuming that he wants to run his conservative community without a lot of political disagreement) and an enforcement headache.

    And should we clean up communities and remove inactive ones, making more room for local discussions?

    I would personally suggest doing this on a lazy basis. I mean, I don’t think that inactive communities hurt unless the moderators are inactive and there are moderators who do want to actively moderate. If someone wants to take over moderation, can just accept a request to take the thing over. It’s easy enough to sort communities by activity to find active ones if one wants.

    I do think that there’s maybe some argument for proactively removing “throwaway” communities that are named something like “test37” and have one post and are clearly never going to go anywhere.

    The reason I started thinking about this is because I noticed that some other instances remove posts that are completely legal to discuss. They are just removed because admins/moderators dont like their content. Which is exactly like on reddit then.

    It’s your instance, so your call. If you want all communities to be explicitly light-touch moderation, your call. Personally, I think that restrictive moderation is fine, as long as I’m not restricted from using a light-touch moderated community. I mean, I don’t really like moderation and admin stuff on lemmygrad.ml, but I also don’t really think that defederating from it makes sense. It’s just one more option, and clearly some people do like that sort of thing. Same deal with local communities.

    That being said, it could also be that having an explicitly-permissive-communities instance might be valued by some users. Like, lemmy.blahaj.zone is a trans-oriented instance. pawb.social is a furry-oriented instance. Might be that some users would like an instance where moderators aren’t allowed to restrict discussion like that. Not really something that I’m hankering for, but there could be users who want it. Part of the benefit of having a bunch of instances on the Threadiverse is that it’s possible to try doing stuff like that, and if people don’t like it, well, also a bunch of other instances to put a community on.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t think that there’s some raging torrent of people wanting to run discussion conservative communities that this is blocking

      In my conservative community, people now about how locking it stopped discussion, but I wasn’t getting discussion. Every article was just people calling me a Nazi. None of the comments were about politics. It was immediately name calling and accusations. I started locking after the Kirk shooting when Lemmy was in a very weird place of celebrating blood lust.

      Unlocked now tho. I think it’s calmed down a bit.

      And also, your post is full of great insights!

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        Have you thought that maybe it’s because of the way you interact with others? We argued once months ago, I don’t remember what it was about, but I remember you behaving like a teenager in 2003 on Xbox live.

        If you want your discussions to be more debates and less name calling, try leading by example homie.

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          Do you have any examples of how I was behaving like a teenager? Many comments that I reply to, start off by calling me a fascist or nazi or accuse me of being a “sock puppet.” Look in my community and tell me what articles are fascist or nazi articles: https://lemmy.today/c/conservative

          Please show me any comment that I’ve made that was fascist or nazi: https://lemmy.today/u/DonaldJMusk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

          I’ve always supported diversity, supported LGBTQIA+ issues (My conservative community says at top of sidebar: This is a pro-LGBTQIA+ community), and I have always supported the Epstein files release.

          I believe you admitted in a comment somewhere in a thread that was trashing me, that you had fun “trolling” me for a while, and you laughed about it. So in your previous conversations with me, did you really come at me wanting serious conversation? Or to have a little fun ragging on me a bit? Because you sure do seem to laugh about messing with me and then being banned from my comms for it.

          In addition to the single conservative community I mod, I currently mod these communities:

          !calisthenics@lemmy.today

          !weirdnews@lemmy.today (mostly UFO’s)

          !science@lemmy.today

          !libertarian@lemmy.today (mostly anti-trump/anti-police state)

          !WNBA@lemmy.today (women’s basketball)

          !womensboxing@lemmy.today (women’s boxing)

          !womensmma@lemmy.today (women’s MMA)