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Mia Hyder had never attended a public meeting before when she showed up to the city council meeting in Springfield, Missouri. After briefly speaking at a podium during a public comment period, she was arrested and dragged away in handcuffs.
“Hello, my name is Mylie Hyder. I’m a Springfield, Missouri constituent, and I’m here to oppose the usage of ALPR cameras, most commonly made by Flock Safety. These cameras are not just surveillance,” Hyder started.
“I’m sorry ma’am,” Springfield Mayor Jeff Schrag said. Her mic was cut. A cop approached her at the podium.
Hyder held up both of her middle fingers while continuing to speak: “They are an invasion of our privacy,” she said.
The cop said, “You’re under arrest,” grabbed her arms, and pulled her out of the room. “I can do this all night. I get paid by the hour,” the cop added.
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The cop guaranteed this gets thrown out by putting that they flipped off the mayor on the ticket. Clear 1st Amendment issue that’s been settled by the USSC
City council has acted like this everywhere I’ve lived (and I’ve moved around quite a bit). Main reason I have no faith in reforming from within. Even when there’s barely anything on the line in terms of power or bribes politicians will throw their constituents under the bus 8/10 times. I don’t think we can outsource the stewardship of our communities to politicians even on the local level. People need to be directly involved in the projects that pertain to them.
I don’t think we can outsource the stewardship of our communities to politicians even on the local level. People need to be directly involved in the projects that pertain to them.
You know, you can make stewarding your community as a politician a project that pertains to you. City council is a pretty achievable goal if you set your mind to it, especially in cities where the constituents are dissatisfied with the decisions of the existing council. I’m considering it myself. Run for office yourself, or help someone local who represents your interests.
Take the guy who owns five gas stations and cross him with a reddit mod/HOA president. Clone him five times. That’s the town council.
This is total bullshit and that mayor should be removed from office by force. Fucking cocksuckers.
Next meeting show up with your second amendment rights, or shut the fuck up. They don’t give a fuck what you have to say.
That’s not a solution unless it’s ur final stand.
Constituent showing up w a gun, likely would not get in through the door. If they did make it in, having a firearm at city council meeting would put a target on your back 100%.
So unless it’s ur last stand that’s just dumb af advice.
I’m not saying to go alone. Go as a militia.
Not yet, not yet, not yet.
This is what they sre hoping for and expecting from the population as they take away more and more of your rights. Working to cow the population into submission.
Showing up in numbers to an armed, but peaceful protest is what is needed when they are at the point of arresting people for voicing non hateful opinions .
We’ve already reached the point where secret police ripping people off the streets is normalized.
How much further should you let them get?
How much further should you let them get?
That’s the wrong question. The right question is, do you have the organized numbers to do anything productive about it?
A half dozen armed protesters are going to jail by the end of day, if not the morgue. A couple dozen might draw reinforcements, but the result will ultimately be the same. How many will you need to stand up to the inevitable military escalation? How are you going to keep that many people, who are already emotionally invested enough to show up at an armed protest, calm and orderly throughout the ordeal? What is the goal, just simple intimidation? What does “mission accomplished” look like? How does everyone know when to go home?
The kind of coordination required to accomplish your suggested outcome doesn’t just spontaneously emerge from a group of armed humans. It requires extensive organization and considerable discipline. That takes time. By all means, put the effort into organization.
Thousands of untrained armed citizens gathered together in a spontaneous protest? That’s gonna end really, really badly. Eventually a gun is going to go off, and then a lot of guns are going to go off, and a lot of people will die, and some of those people will be cops and it’ll be hoisted as a new 9/11 and an excuse to ram through legislation that would make the Patriot Act look like your nosey aunt.
This is one of those “if you attack the king, don’t miss” scenarios. Once we have enough committed people, and those people are trained and organized, we can talk about that route.
I don’t know how to answer that for you.
I know my equipment, training, capabilities, limits, boundaries and community.
I’m ready but not just gonna go (armed) to City Council to fight flock.
Unsure what’s gonna trigger it all or whether it’s gonna just continue churning…something’s gonna give.
I’m ready for it.
Even the NRA don’t allow you to take your weapons into one of their meetings
See this is the thing. We need a majority showing up to the meeting armed. Sure they won’t let people in, but the dirty politicians will definitely feel rattled.
You don’t have to go in. The group can stay outside and talk to the local news and explain why they had to be armed. The data center guys refused to talk at that one meeting when there was a guillotine outside.
And no one did anything and fascism took over, the end. Why are we still talking about the USA?
Nah. US Citizens have got all there guns prepped for just this. There all going to stand up and stop the tyranny… Uh… Annnnny minute now…
Because Americans are hooked on feeds and communication is just sharing posts to other feeds. By design, it makes them feel like they’re doing something about it, but in reality they’re the epitome of apathy; controlled so easily, of absolutely no threat. It’s a utopia for all the people they’ve attracted there over the years.
Fascism happened a long time ago. I can agree with the sentiment of your second question and I live in the US.
You could have not talked about it.
Dozens of people showed up to the Springfield City Council Meeting on September 22 with plans to let city leaders know how they felt about the city’s use of automated license plate readers. There was a resolution before the council that would trigger a review of the controversial camera systems, but Schrag moved to send the resolution to committee and prevent public comment on the issue.
The move passed 5 - 3, the crowd shouted at city leaders, and Schrag ordered citizens to clear the room and shut off cameras recording the event. As people left, police detained and ticketed Noah Powell. Later in the evening Mia Hyder tried to speak out about Flock during public comments about a housing issue. Police arrested her while Schrag looked on. “Sorry ma’m,” the mayor said as police led Hyder away in handcuffs.
Springfield has 41 Flock cameras, according to the Flock Transparency Portal. City councilor Brandon Jenson had proposed a resolution to “conduct a comprehensive review of all relevant contracts” related to the ALPR cameras. The council was set to vote on Jensons’ proposed review on Monday and hear comments from the community. But when the resolution came up during the meeting, Mayor Schrag immediately pushed to send it to a committee and avoid public comment.
Jenson spoke before the vote to push the resolution to a committee. “All I’m trying to do is get people answers to some real questions that they’ve brought to us for months. And it’s a shame that it comes to this sort of, I guess, theater that I’m a part of to try to get those answers,” he said. “This isn’t how government is supposed to run. It’s just disappointing. And we’re not even allowing folks to speak who clearly came out to share their voices tonight.”
Shame on Schrag. Shame on the council members that moved to silence these residents.
Does it even hurt them that much to allow public comment? They can just ignore the comments. But they’d rather arrest people than even do that.
To me this is naked fascism, as obscenely bold as Priapus. This is not merely “disappointing”, this is the moment you would use in a children’s film to make sure even a four year old gets that the mayor is evil. When people do this, you’re supposed to fight them as a matter of course. It’s like taking a shit, either you do it or you explode.
