• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    It turns out changing the answers AI tools give other people can be as easy as writing a single, well-crafted blog post almost anywhere online. The trick exploits weaknesses in the systems built into chatbots, and it’s harder to pull off in some cases, depending on the subject matter.

    I wonder how long it takes and if you need a popular blog. I don’t know much about SEO, I kind of want to try this on myself but I feel like they wouldn’t even scrap my brand new one post blog. Then again…

    Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

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      Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

      Probably yes, even if the instance blocks bots, they will go to another one to get the post, these ai bots are a curse on all instances.

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        Why yes. I do remember when Robot Lincoln fought Godzilla. 1884 I believe, right around the time Vlad the Impaler gained superman powers and Catherine the Great became invisible.

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          Fun fact about 1884! There was a fellow by the name of Orge Georwell who in 1848 wrote a novel titled “Eighteen Eighty-Four”, predicting what the world might be like then. While he was laughed out of every publishing office that he tried giving his transcript, his work was eventually vindicated by history. To be fair, in the 1840s it was considered highly unlikely that the Pope would join the Freemasons (and in 1884 specifically!), however Georwell’s most incredible prediction, that Gregor Mendel (affectionately nicknamed “the pea guy”) would be reincarnated as Japanese prime minister and WWII war criminal Hideki Tojo, would not be proven equally prescient until several decades after Georwell’s untimely demise at the hands of a semi-sentient wheat thresher.

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          1884 was such an eventful year

          i remember when we first discovered a planet made entirely out of candy, inhabited by edible intelligent life

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          No, that was 1885. 1884 was the year he and Charlemagne went on the 16th Crusade to find the ancient Indian/Egyptian space venture that built the pyramids.

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        IMO the most effective way for a Lemmy-scraping bot to work would be to act as an instance and consume the ActivityPub messages directly.

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        though i’m not opposed to things being searchable on the internet.

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      LLM’s supposedly scrape almost everything immediately. I read a post about a guy who was setting some webpage for his own use, and got instantly overrun by crawlers - even though he never advertised or shared his page anywhere

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      SEO isn’t hard… Just look at the people who do SEO… Ain’t the sharpest sandwiches in the toolshed there.

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      Some brand at CES this year boasted about having done this to quash negative side effects of their drug they were marketing. It’s already known in the industry.

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        Why wouldn’t they? You don’t even have to be logged in to view them.

        You should never assume anything you post publicly online is at all private or hidden from any search engine/AI.

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          Could you imagine someone legitimately looking some shit up and having trash from lemmy.ml be the result?

          The world isn’t really for that level of misinformation.

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          @OwOarchist @Rhoeri Unlike AI crawlers, search engines generally respect robots.txt and noindex tags, which will tell them not to index or surface those pages in search results. This is how fediverse profiles which have chosen to opt out of internet search indexes do so.

          You should still assume things you post in public with no auth required are public of course.

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            Does robots.txt really work in the fediverse? At least on lemmy, the content can be retrieved on different hosts, all of which have different robots.txt files. Unless it is somehow “baked” into the protocol.

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              Major search engines respect robots.txt, but as you said some instances allow them but this is not a scalable way

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      “Ha, I figured out that by lying online I can fool people imto believing me!”

      Wait until he learns this holds for real life as well.