Or, why not just build roads that inhibit speeding
As I already stated, doing that is not quick, easy, or cheap. Mounting a camera to a pole is much more cost effective, and quick to set up in the short term, even if it’s not the ideal long-term solution.
They’ve been proven to reduce speed, injuries, and deaths, and there’s vanishingly few cases in which regular, non-“smart” traffic cameras operating under the technological standards I mentioned have ever been utilized for any form of surveillance that produced a measurable harm for any individual, that I could find. That is why I advocate for those, not for “smart” ones like Flock’s.
I don’t think it should be a permanent solution, but I’d rather have speed cameras now, with road improvements later, over zero measures to prevent speeding now, with the hope that traffic calming infrastructure will be feasible and actually get done later down the line. Infrastructure isn’t free, and cameras aren’t either, but cameras are a hell of a lot cheaper.
A camera is a camera, and there are no lightpole cameras that are SD Card read only with no access to the internet.
You know what that means right? That anybody can access them if they’re smart enough? You keep reiterating the same thing while fundamentally not understanding, or choosing not to care that a camera is a camera. Don’t give up your privacy just because it’s the cheaper option.
You clearly are fine being surveiled though so this conversation is pointless.
That anybody can access them if they’re smart enough?
Not all cameras have security vulnerabilities. Assuming it’s a matter of “smarts” is ridiculous. Plain old traffic cameras that solely detect speeding, especially those installed without additional “smart” features like Flock’s, rarely have breaches, because they are by their very nature quite simple systems.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, or that cases don’t exist, but I’ve seen far more harm come from actual, preventable traffic deaths than I’ve seen from hacked speeding cameras. I’ve seen zero instances of that being used to cause harm, thus far.
You clearly are fine being surveiled though
I am not. That is why I am clearly advocating solely for systems with a design that reduces the chances of remote access, can’t engage in mass surveillance, and only send data on those actively speeding, while never transmitting anything about literally everybody else. Have you even read my comments?
You clearly don’t get my points, I’m sorry if I’m somehow not explaining them clearly enough, but fine, I’m done. You win, or whatever. Good job.
As I already stated, doing that is not quick, easy, or cheap. Mounting a camera to a pole is much more cost effective, and quick to set up in the short term, even if it’s not the ideal long-term solution.
They’ve been proven to reduce speed, injuries, and deaths, and there’s vanishingly few cases in which regular, non-“smart” traffic cameras operating under the technological standards I mentioned have ever been utilized for any form of surveillance that produced a measurable harm for any individual, that I could find. That is why I advocate for those, not for “smart” ones like Flock’s.
I don’t think it should be a permanent solution, but I’d rather have speed cameras now, with road improvements later, over zero measures to prevent speeding now, with the hope that traffic calming infrastructure will be feasible and actually get done later down the line. Infrastructure isn’t free, and cameras aren’t either, but cameras are a hell of a lot cheaper.
A camera is a camera, and there are no lightpole cameras that are SD Card read only with no access to the internet.
You know what that means right? That anybody can access them if they’re smart enough? You keep reiterating the same thing while fundamentally not understanding, or choosing not to care that a camera is a camera. Don’t give up your privacy just because it’s the cheaper option.
You clearly are fine being surveiled though so this conversation is pointless.
Not all cameras have security vulnerabilities. Assuming it’s a matter of “smarts” is ridiculous. Plain old traffic cameras that solely detect speeding, especially those installed without additional “smart” features like Flock’s, rarely have breaches, because they are by their very nature quite simple systems.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, or that cases don’t exist, but I’ve seen far more harm come from actual, preventable traffic deaths than I’ve seen from hacked speeding cameras. I’ve seen zero instances of that being used to cause harm, thus far.
I am not. That is why I am clearly advocating solely for systems with a design that reduces the chances of remote access, can’t engage in mass surveillance, and only send data on those actively speeding, while never transmitting anything about literally everybody else. Have you even read my comments?
You clearly don’t get my points, I’m sorry if I’m somehow not explaining them clearly enough, but fine, I’m done. You win, or whatever. Good job.