I’ve been trying to understand this one for a while, and every time I’ve asked for elaboration on the .world admins being zionists I’ve been brushed off. I’ve seen them defend a couple shitty moderators and that’s not great, but I haven’t seen anything close to actual zionism.
So sincerely, and not trying to start anything here: what behavior/actions/etc. makes them obvious zionists?
The linguistic trick here is that “Zionism” is an overloaded term, which can mean anything from “I don’t think Israel should be burned to the ground” to “I think Israel should be allowed to genocide Arabs” and the Neo Nazis learned a long time ago how to play both sides of that coin, hiding behind one while meaning or the other as convenient. That’s why it has been such a Hallmark of far right rhetoric, and why it’s alarming that so many “leftists” have seemingly picked up that flag, seemingly (hopefully) unaware of that history. Technically anyone who supports a two state solution is a Zionist, as that would imply support for Israeli sovereignty in some form.
The OP is plausible precisely because the recent usage on the left is so similar, and plainly obvious to anyone who has been around the block on this, and why you struggle to get responses to your inquiry, because examples would reduce the ambiguity to practice and give up the game.
Zionism means one thing and only one thing. That you believe Israel has the right to steal others land for themselves.
It is colonialism as an ideology.
It’s not surprising that leftists are against the idea that people “must have” a racist ethnostate in the middle of Palestine.
Proponents of Israel frequently try to conflate antizionism with antisemetism and one tactic is to pretend it’s linked to the far right. Despite the fact that it is the right who always backup and defend Israel.
I’ve been trying to understand this one for a while, and every time I’ve asked for elaboration on the .world admins being zionists I’ve been brushed off. I’ve seen them defend a couple shitty moderators and that’s not great, but I haven’t seen anything close to actual zionism.
So sincerely, and not trying to start anything here: what behavior/actions/etc. makes them obvious zionists?
The linguistic trick here is that “Zionism” is an overloaded term, which can mean anything from “I don’t think Israel should be burned to the ground” to “I think Israel should be allowed to genocide Arabs” and the Neo Nazis learned a long time ago how to play both sides of that coin, hiding behind one while meaning or the other as convenient. That’s why it has been such a Hallmark of far right rhetoric, and why it’s alarming that so many “leftists” have seemingly picked up that flag, seemingly (hopefully) unaware of that history. Technically anyone who supports a two state solution is a Zionist, as that would imply support for Israeli sovereignty in some form.
The OP is plausible precisely because the recent usage on the left is so similar, and plainly obvious to anyone who has been around the block on this, and why you struggle to get responses to your inquiry, because examples would reduce the ambiguity to practice and give up the game.
EDIT: Ok, I said my full opinion, but only because of a certain objective am I removing it.
Zionism means one thing and only one thing. That you believe Israel has the right to steal others land for themselves.
It is colonialism as an ideology.
It’s not surprising that leftists are against the idea that people “must have” a racist ethnostate in the middle of Palestine.
Proponents of Israel frequently try to conflate antizionism with antisemetism and one tactic is to pretend it’s linked to the far right. Despite the fact that it is the right who always backup and defend Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_Zionism
Yes.