This is after having tons of solar panels too LMAO
more like “thanks bro, keep sending those $$ my way”
Lol…I hate my power bill.
Hmm I think you’re crossing into home datacenter territory.
I’ve got some rookie numbers to pump up LMAO
You’d think I’d have a few racks of equipment running… most of that is heating and cooling. Old drafty farm house with old inefficient heat pumps. Winter was damn cold this year.
I have a modern house with modern a heat pump, and I agree this winter was pretty brutal, but nothing close to yours. Can I ask what you pay per KWh? I have to imagine you’re coming close to spending enough in energy to pay for some serious renovations on the house.
Whoa. A really bad month for me is 2500 kwh.
My heat pump has used less than that since it was installed, in 2023…
Why does the electricity company know your flat size and your heating source?
In most places in the US, basic home specs are public record and/or just floating around since the last time it was publicly listed for sale
Wow. That idea is definitely 2American4me…
(I also just posted it in the respective community, as it fits perfectly there…)Where I am in Germany, not only do they know all of that, but they come out every year to check it. This year, they showed up several days before they said they were going to, but when the guy walked in, he looked around, and then gave us a bunch of information about dealing with slum lords, lol.
Are you perhaps confusing that with the heating meter checkers in appartment buildings? They actually need the living area for the billing and have a contract to do so with your
landslumlord, and thereby you.Regarding the slumlord: The magic word is generally “Mietminderung”, I think.
I’m not confusing it, that’s exactly what I’m talking about! They’re employed by the utility company in my city and contracted through the landlord. Are they completely independent from the utility company elsewhere?
The apartment is not actually a huge problem, slightly better than a standard student apartment, it’s more that the guy was just drive-by judging my life.
Typically you have a contract with the electricity company yourself, not via the landlord.
He typically doesn’t know and doesn’t care from whom (or if at all) you get your electricity.Yours might be a special arrangement because of being a student apartment.
I have no idea how uncommon this is here and hope I’m not doxxing myself, but there’s only been one option (the city itself) in the ten+ apartments my husband and I have lived in in this city for water, electricity, and heat (though obviously there are options for using pellet stoves and similar things, but that doesn’t come up much in apartments), so I don’t know if I live in a weird place or if there’s just one city office exchange that serves as a middleman for multiple options.
Or I might just be misinterpreting you and you meant things like pellet stoves, fireplaces, etc. I guess I would have thought the Schornsteinfeger would have reported the heating method for your home to the city.
It’s not technically a student apartment, but it’s right next to campus and we’re definitely the first married couple to live there.
Besides what others have said, they’d know the capabilities of the address when it’s built, at a minimum, as they’re responsible for providing the infrastructure to deliver power to it.
I really don’t get why you’re asking this - they need to know what a facility is capable of to manage and plan power delivery.
As an aside, graphs like this are wildly wrong. Mine says the comparison is made between residences from 0.5 to 1.5 times the size of mine, within a 7 mile radius. So it includes apartments downtown who’s heat is steam, and each unit insulates each other, and the building has a dozen to 100 bodies in it, heating it up.
That makes for a completly irrelevant comparison.
they need to know what a facility is capable of to manage and plan power delivery.
But that’s a single value measured in Ampere.
The size in square feet is something completely irrelevant to know.
And even the Ampere value is only relevant for the local provider that connects to your house, not for the company selling you the actual electric energy.
The company selling me electricity knows nothing about me but my electric meter ID.
Lighting load on new construction homes is calculated based on square footage.
Lighting load on new construction homes is calculated based on square footage.
That doesn’t even make sense as it treads someone just putting up a single 5W bulb the same as someone having an indoor hemp plantation or heavy machine shop in their basement.
Well the NEC still uses wattages from old incandescent bulbs for general lighting load calcs, plus there’s always a reasonable amount of overspeccing built into the calculation.
You would then add any large loads specifically. Clothes drier, oven, fridge, HVAC, anything that comes with a nameplate wattage rating should be included in the load calc.
Most utilities these days will also just round up to a 200A service for anything larger than a trailer. Big houses would get multiples of 200A services if needed.
It seems very common in the US to get these mailed by the supplier. This one seems to be a blueprint for National Grid, and is similar to a post from this house light show co. on Facebook
How many computers do you have?
I think they forgot to mention the huge tomato farm they have in their basement. Tons of lights and special ventilation setup. Tastes much better than what you can get at the grocery store of course.
I call it the Tomacco. Not responsible if you feed it to animals
Tomater
Tato: cross between a tomato and a potato.
Like 3 or 4 1u/2u servers equipped with a couple GPUs, plus a tape library lol
It’s not obvious before you do the math but a 500 watt homelab is basically a large air conditioner. The AC is just on ⅓ of the time ½ of the year.
Lol I’ve got like 2-3 ACs then 😂
I have to split power between 3 different circuits that are near my office in order to keep each one within the 80% rule in the event I’m putting heavy load on them
…I really need to get an electrician out to put in a 240 line 😅…
I’ve been measuring my server rack’s power usage, and it usually sits at around 500W with a 1U + 2U server (and GPU). My plan for the 1U has been to colocate it, but it’s an extra $25/month for each 100W increment, so I’ve been trying things like lowering the CPU power limit to save some money. Apparently turning my 200W EPYC CPU down to 150W barely makes a difference in my workloads, but that 50W is enough to save me quite a bit.
Man what are you paying per kwh? I’m averaging ~$0.21 AUD using a supplier who offers a variable market wholesale price.
I’d thought my rack was a bit of a hog with a z390 9900k and erying es system, but checking my current usage it’s vibing at 180kwh~
At 9:20 pm my rack has set me back $0.80 for the day (excluding misc connection fees and so forth). Most of my daily use would be in heating / cooling with two split systems & the wife WFH.
I’m in the PNW and pay about US$0.17/kWh at home, but for the data center rates, they charge based on peak usage because that’s how they size cooling and generator backups. Guaranteed redundant power and networking is just a lot more expensive than residential power.
All of them.
This thread makes me question my 2,000kWh power bill, I don’t have any servers and always shut down my main PC over night. I do use a laptop as a media center that I don’t shut down, but I figured it can’t be using that much power.
Maybe the main factor is me being in home office and using my PC about 12-14h a day? 😅
Edit: Oh, I guess many people are talking monthly usage here. My number is over the last year, so I guess I’m not doing too bad
you still have halogen lights or worse?
If your heating system isn’t electric I really wonder how you do.
Otherwise: Hoven, electric kettle/toaster, dishwasher, washing machine, dryer are usually the most consuming devices
Wait, you’re talking monthly or yearly?
yearly, and I use LED light bulbs in the whole flat
I do haven an electric stove/oven, kettle, dishwasher and washing machine. Oh, and my warm tap water is also heated by electricity. Haven’t really considered those, but that’s definitely a good point, water takes tons of energy to heat after all
Yearly?! It’s nothing then 😅
I just looked it up, it seems I’m pretty average with my energy usage compared to others here in germany, considering the electric flow heater I have. I wonder why energy usage seems so much higher elsewhere
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No HVAC here, I have gas heating and the only thing resembling AC in my flat is a fridge lol
Uff…that’s close to my yearly electricity bill (including a home server/NAS). Energy consumption in the US is crazy.
What’s the idle power on your NAS? Less than 6 watts?
No, not quite that low. It’s an x86 PC with multiple HDDs. It draws about 15W in idle, or about 130 kWh per year. It’s a substantial part of my electricity bill xD
Now imagine having home servers, (legal) weed grow tents, and and EV
Did you try to size your solar panels to your usage or are you doing small scale solar?
I’ve been thinking about solar, but the prices are pretty harsh, especially without the federal credits.
I don’t think I can get the amount of panels needed, as-is my system can produce about 700-800 watts in a good sunny month (which the month they used wasn’t really, it was Feb and it produced about 600-650)
But my electric company has some dumbass arbitrary limit on the amount panels the professional installers have to follow and I’m pretty sure I’m close to it
I’ve been meaning to check out this “unofficial” DIY plugin solar stuff, but haven’t gotten to it yet lol
But my electric company has some dumbass arbitrary limit on the amount panels the professional installers have to follow and I’m pretty sure I’m close to it
This is what I faced too. The power company only allowed to install solar generation capacity 110% of my power consumption over the last 12 months. So we had to spent a year being very wasteful of electricity. That allowed me to put up panels covering the entire roof.
similar heating source
I highly doubt that, probably OP heating source are his servers
I’m conducting experiments on temperal mechanics. I need at least 1.21 Gigawatts.
PLEASE get us out of the Biff timeline
While bleak and terrible, I still think Biff’s future would be less shitty than Trump’s. I mean, Biff wasn’t getting dangerously close to starting WW3 or sending gestapo out to round up and deport non-whites. They do share being rapists in common, tho.
Yeah but we only saw Biff muck things up for like 2 hours…
Tbf, we only saw Biff after he already consolidated his global power, so we really don’t know if he did kick off WWIII to accomplish that lol
had the same. now I’m running more with less.
got rid of my commercial grade servers and implemented consumer grade hardware that requires less power.
I was running four whole dell R series for a total of around 5kw of power (four devices x 1kw psu + redundant).
now I’m running two consumer grade servers with newer for efficient tech and smaller non-redundant psus. it should be sitting right around 1.2kw.
the newer hardware can easily run what used to take a dedicated R series.
next is to consolidate all my network infra.
When the server alone is idling at 200W
Probably closer to 800W based on OP’s usage.
I felt really bad about having a PC on all the time that consumed like 30-50 watts. Never mind I guess.
which is why i autosuspend my pc that’s also a jellyfin & smb server
Mine looks like this because Im the only one that has a heat pump on a street full of gas users
Someone’s still running a Bitcoin farm.
Is this weekly or monthly? If monthly, where the hell are people using only 600 kwh a month?
if you have gas or wood as a heating system and no electric cars?
This month we have reach for the moment 398kWh, with quite a lot of powertools(compressor, woodworking equipment,…) , plus dryer/washers etc. But no electric heating/boiler, which is gas or wood.
I do, most of the time. A while back I tracked my monthly electricity usage and it ranges from 200-700kWh a month. That includes cooking, heating and hot water too, one of the first things I did when getting my house was move everything to electricity and get the gas disconnected.
That’s surprising. I live in an area with no gas connections, so everything is electric. We average a little over 1000kwh a month every month.
I do live in a hot place so we rely on air conditioning a lot, maybe that’s the difference.
Surprised it would be pretty much the same amount every month, does your area not really have a winter/summer?
DFW part of Texas, it’s mostly hot throughout the year. I let my thermostat get a bit warm when no one is home to save on energy cost there.
The winters here get cold, but not that bad and not for very long so the heater doesn’t need to be on that much. Usage does go down during those months. We peak around 1400 or so in the hottest months.
My usage is so consistent I happily took an energy plan that was more expensive unless my energy usage stays between 1000-2000 kwh, where they give a $100 usage credit.
