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absolutely. my 30+ years experience says work and personal should be separate devices with no exceptions. and the ‘work’ one should be what they want on it, how they want it. if you then get malware, it’s on them–not you. if you want something different, ask and get permission first.

it’s been almost a year here, i’m still going down (what my mind thinks is) the ‘correct’ aisle, only to be reminded when i get there that what i’m looking for i literally walked past a minute earlier, five rows back.

they’re just pushing more higher margin products. they’ll restock the ‘basics’ more frequently as a result of giving those things less shelf space.

immutable distributions use flatpaks as their source for desktop applications, it is what they recommend you use.

most (endless os does not) support layering, but they also advise against it unless you have to. even bazzite says to do and try literally every other option, even running a windows binary under emulation, before layering packages. they know their shit better than i do, so i’m not gonna layer a ton of packages and depends for dozens of applications just so i can use a clipboard or drag stuff between any them.

nor do i want added complexity of screwing around with toolbx containers. for one program to try or to run temporarily for a one-off task or very specific thing you don’t want your system cluttered with? sure. i’ve got a couple things set up right now using toolbx. for 30+ desktop applications, some of which are large or pull in a bunch of depends? hell no. it’s not the right tool.

i also do not need or want yet another package manager and binary repos in brew, and brew doesn’t have that much i’d be looking at anyway.

appimages are not really the answer either, not everything has one, some are built upon fuse v2 (no longer supported), and some are third-party builds you might not want to trust.

so, that leaves flatpaks as ‘the’ source for desktop applications–unless you are fond of terminal screens and hoop-jumping, needless added complexity, or want to go against the strong recommendations of the folks that literally make your immutable rpm-ostree based distribution.

the term ‘clipboard’ is not present anywhere in flatpak, bazzite, or fedora atomic documentation.

tl;dr: author got tripped-up over fedora’s flatpak repo and having to click once to enable flathub in kinoite.

but Bazzite is also another one that is actually specifically focused on gaming.

its sibling, aurora kde, is the one i nearly went with. in fact i still have it sitting on this pc’s twin (have two identical ones, bought before the market went to shit). the flatpak-only environment was giving me constant headaches. i ended up on debian, and it’s been an absolute dream. it’s great to be back ‘home’, i haven’t had a pure debian desktop in years.

fedora’s immutables are nice. just ‘not for me’ (right now). i’ll still suggest and install them for others, though, because for basic tasks and newcomers it’s a solid and hard-to-break choice.

google did play this long game pretty well… get mozilla on-board with webextensions format. get microsoft to adopt chromium for its own browser. use every trick in the book, legal or not, to gain marketshare. then start the rug pull. first: neuter the adblockers (we are here), next (and there will be a ‘next’) will be killing ad or content blockers and manipulators completely.

in most cases, still ‘downloading’ something to boot to initially. might as well just make a usb installer. i also had zero luck with any usb keyboards working with netboot.xyz when i tried using it on a 7th gen optiplex, had to steal borrow a ps/2 one.

debian has a great netinst image that has most the drivers and firmwares needed to install debian over the network on pretty much anything. debian’s installers were also the only installers (of a dozen or more i tried at one time) that worked ‘out of the box’ with my particular usb wifi for a net install.

that would be the fault of amazon’s genius idea of mixing inventory from multiple sellers and suppliers together.

we’ve been through similar bullshit here. we just cut out those companies and never again do we buy from them, for ourselves or our clients.

whereas your average bee just wants to get back to their flower

that’s really all some of want, too.