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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • Wtf has happened.

    The internet has become much worse. Iran is the most important thing happening. But take reddit for example. There seems to be a moderation effort to eliminate multiple discussions and funnel everyone and everything into these single chats. Does that bother anyone else?

    Back in the day there would be multiple discussions so many views and opinions. Multiple conversations created momentum and insight. Each iteration improved on the last with information and then there was a single thread that could link to multiple threads. It now seems like that’s all gone. Everything is sanitized. I scrolled through some homepages even here on lemmy and it’s like

    lame joke,

    cat posts,

    dumb meme,

    angry post about Hollywood,

    ww3 breaking out mega thread,

    cat video,

    trumps a butt head,

    video game

    video game.

    Is this our world now. The most important thing is moderated into a drawer so we can get back to the paying a cat tax and being silly guys. What the fuck is going on. I feel like I’m losing my god damn mind.








  • Sort of but like the post is saying, I’ve been way more right then wrong over my life. The amount of times I’ve argued online with people about things only to have that thing become the big issue 5 years from the point I was arguing it is disgusting. I remember 20 years ago sitting in a bay at work being made fun of because I kept talking about Russia and how they have started to allocate a higher percentage of their budget to cyber warfare that was unseen in budgets outside of wartime. It indicated they were building something. Stuff like that I get hyper interested in. I think I have a good nose for sources. I get into those sources and then find some weird thing nobody else is aware of and then you’re just aware of this looming issue and all you can do is watch it unfold.

    Same thing with online bots. I can see when certain activity spikes. Certain topics get AstroTurfed and all of a sudden we’re talking about nuclear power for a week or some other topic that is really a facade for some bigger issue we’re slowly being steered towards. AI was a big one, go to any AI article and tell me that is not the exact same approach Republicans use against immigrants. It’s the same fucking thing. “they’re taking your job” “they’re going to destroy your culture” “they’re coming after your women and children” “They’re using up all the resouces”

    AI has it’s issues. But you cannot convince me that there wasn’t something pushing articles and headlines on left wing spaces when it was first introduced. There was a massive push to set the tone.


  • There’s a few ways I would like to take this but also I think overall I agree with you.

    I don’t go into it to much but where I’m slowly adapting my views are on a few issues.

    One is that I think one is that no cost should be incurred by anyone who defended themselves. I do totally get the argument that everybody deserves justice including criminals. But the stories I’ve come across tend to highlight how self defense laws are lacking in Canada and there is a lot of room between allowing all killings and some kind of castle doctrine.

    The second issue for me is as I’ve aged, I can’t tell you what the hell police do. The amount of times myself or someone i know has called them, only for them to say “not much we can do, just file a report online” is too many. Yet majority of my municipal taxes go to them. So for me I am coming around to the idea that we need to pull back some of the responsibility society has given to police and reclaim it ourselves. They’re not keeping us safe. They are now refusing to act when the government tells them to. Because of this I think society does need to go back to the idea that we can’t rely on the justice system.








  • But it is numbers. It’s always been about numbers. Humans are social creatures. We see everybody agreeing about something, we tend to also agree. It’s a weird phenomenon that has research behind it. It’s not like you or I are going to become Trump supporters because we see everybody agreeing with him. There are somethings that are immovable. But many opinions are movable and in those areas this groups are attempting to get numbers. It should be met with an equal and greater force. At the same time we need to quit being defensive and go back on the offensive. We should be creating groups and building networks. The algorithms do respond.




  • I think it’s much darker than that. They’re looking to gain a critical mass where racism and right wing authoritarians gain so much momentum that they spread faster when making policy that is authoritarian. Facebook is still incredibly useful to shift public opinion. These groups target areas and act like a magnet slowly collecting people who agree. It might be 1 out of every 10,000 views but it builds slowly. I haven’t been on Facebook in years. It has changed and I truly suggest people need to witness it for themselves. Turning a blind eye isn’t the right stance anymore. I usually would never say this but Facebook needs to be dismantled.



  • How do they get this data. Isn’t it stuff that is collected so it’s not even a full set of data. It’s just a collection that some amazing people were able to pull since Facebook locks down their api

    There is a well-established “perception gap” between what we think others believe and what they actually believe. A recent poll by ReClimate found that 42 per cent of Canadians think about addressing climate change at least weekly, and yet they believe only 26 per cent of their neighbours do the same. Similarly, research has found as many as 89 per cent of people want more action on climate change — yet those 89 per cent tend to believe they’re in the minority.

    So many people shit on me here in lemmy for saying this, but we have to do better. We have to nut the fuck up and deal with this. Instead of the exodus off these social media platforms, we need to be the ones drowning them the fuck out. Who cares if they’re owned by who. It’s all still works based on numbers. We need numbers to identify problems and combat the spread of this. That’s how we all felt back in the day. Defeat misinformation by engaging with it. Somewhere along the line we were all convinced to ignore it which only allowed it to spread more rapidly.

    If they want to fuck around, we’re suppose to be the tech literate. We need grass roots networks and forums identifying the leaders and these small number of problem users and we need to make it as difficult as we can for them to work.