• KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz
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    2 months ago

    Students are currently arriving at the university without any basic understanding of file hierarchies (folders containing folders and files). And they have no clue what a zip file is. Nor do they know what to do with it.

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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      2 months ago

      It took me years to get over the fact that I can’t simply copy and paste stuff from folder to folder anymore. Most phones these days won’t even let you do it, and some computers won’t either.

      Everything wants you to sync everything instead, and gives you these awful file managers like the photo apps that make you five different stupid albums that you didn’t ask for and can’t turn off, but makes you have to search around to find the basic albums that just hold your photos…

      Apple and Google are the worst, but even Microsoft tries to be more like them. I just don’t use a computer anymore, haven’t in years. When I do again, I’m definitely switching to Linux…

    • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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      2 months ago

      Time to bring back the manuals from the 80s when students were seeing computers for the first time in university.

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      2 months ago

      I used to be able to just say “please download the materials from [learning platform] and organize them so you can work with them before class” and that would be fine. Nowadays I have to give step-by-step instructions that involve things like “create a folder”, “navigate to your download folder” and “cut (ctrl-x) the files and paste (ctrl-v) them into the new folder” unless I want half the students to get lost.

      Some don’t even have a concept of downloading a file. They’re so used to streaming and mobile UIs that they seem to think that a downloaded file is simply gone once you close it (and needs to be re-downloaded).

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        dude we have to do the same shit with people, and it’s not always young people. Some people just don’t fucking understand stuff

        literally step by step instructions with screenshots and they sometimes still don’t get it, and usually it’s not because the instructions were unclear, they simply did not follow what it clearly said because they fundamentally lack understanding or something I don’t fucking know

        I used to think it was an unreasonable challenge just to get people to paste values and not formats in Excel. it seems like that’s going to be even more difficult going forward. I fucking hate it when I’m looking at a table with a half column of cells with a border on the bottom because my dumbass coworker doesn’t give a shit about quality and just dragged the first row cell down. like it takes no extra effort to do it cleanly, that shit pisses me off. and it’s not for lack of knowledge, they’ve been taught this and shown it explicitly and told that it’s the expectation to have cleanly formatted files. I couldn’t imagine handing in work that just had a giant shit stain on the front and thinking that’s okay.