I can’t even feel superior to everyone when theirs so many arch installers!! I use real arch btw. I thought “I guess I should go to Gentoo” but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!
I feel like we only have two options now
- Ascend to BSD-land
- Ironically supporting Windows Unironically
edit: I have decided to replace my debian laptop with BSD
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- Ascend to BSD-land. Start with FreeBSD.
- Once that becomes mainstream, go to OpenBSD, then NetBSD, then the very-rarely-used DragonflyBSD.
- Once that becomes mainstream (probably never, but still possible theoretically) switch to OpenIndiana, the FOSS version of Solaris.
- Then you can go to something even weirder, like the obsolete IRIX, the mysterious Plan 9/9front/Inferno, or the Rusty alpha-stage Redox OS.
Linux From Scratch or be doomed to be an eternal noob.
Then it’s writing your own kernel. Then your own bootloader. Then your own UEFI.
NixOS is the new Arch. I’m surprised nobody here has said they use it yet.
NixOS user here; please do not recommend NixOS.
As someone who used NixOS as a daily driver for a few months, I also agree with not recommending NixOS.
i use nixos, i dont recomend nixos.
I use nixos and I do recommend it cause it’s cool. You will waste a lot of time, pulling hair trying to fix your config and regret all your life choices but guess what, it’s cool.
I thought the whole point of Nix was that it makes system management simple with the declarative config.
Simple? lol. It is easy if it works, a single command to replicate an entire system. But without an extensive upto date documentation like arch and having to learn a new programming language, it can be quite difficult for someone new.
After about a thousand commits in my config I no longer know how to do stuff the normal way. A few days ago I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out how to run python with modules without resorting to shell.nix
nix run nixpkgs#virtualenv ~/.venv . ~/.venv/bin/activate pip install foo # ...
I don’t use NixOS btw.
Ive noticed this, arch almost just works but my nixOS friends are always complaining about something
Yessss…
Come to Gentooooo.
Come.
Muahahahhahaha. *Lightning & Thunder!*
Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.
Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.
Plan9 sounds like a more exclusive deal.
As a NixOS user…yeah don’t recommend it. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely adore NixOS but suggesting people switch to it when their current distro works perfectly fine for them is a disservice.
NixOS makes the hard things easy, and the easy things hard. It’s incredibly frustrating trying to get something that should be insanely easy to work on NixOS. A good example of which is Neovim with Lazyvim. on every other distro it’s not a big deal, it should be easy to install right? on NixOS you’ll be pulling your hair out trying to get the meson tree-sitter crap to work correctly. Or you’ll find stuff that has been specifically re-packaged or put into a flake to work for NixOS. ok that’s fine, that’ll work on SOME peoples configurations but if yours is ever so slightly more unique it won’t. And then you start to wonder and question if your configuration is wrong but the thing is with NixOS there’s no right or wrong with the configuration. Some people will suggest you use flakes, some people will say don’t bother. Some will say you should put every single thing in modules, some will say don’t bother.
So the problem is with NixOS is that when you start using it and understanding it going to another distro feels like you’re somehow reverting. BUT there’s the potential issue of getting stuck in the rabbit hole that is constant NixOS configuration adjustments to try and get that most perfect and smooth config out of your system. Currently I’m on Arch because I’m taking a “vacation” from NixOS. I have some important projects that are due soon and I just needed to get into a distro that will allow me to focus on them. In a couple weeks time however I know I’ll be back on NixOS.
Open source Windows obviously. https://reactos.org/
All these recent Windows to Linux converts, whining about how Linux should be more like Windows, should be going to ReactOS. They want open source Windows, not open source Unix.
TempelOS?
TempelOS?
… I just noticed… that says “TempelOS”.
Its the German localised version:)
Sit back and enjoy our collective triumph over capitalist technology.
Arch? So weak. I do everything only using the bios.
BIOS? I wired switches directly to the data and address lines of my RAM/CPU and toggle in the machine code directly every time I use my PC.
You should wire it up to an electric piano so you can jam while you compute!
Abandon technology and become a farmer.
MacOS is based on FreeBSD, with the kernel APIs almost fully compatible and the userland just taken from FreeBSD. Your turn.
Redox
but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!
Do you mean all the tears of people bitching on Gentoo because it is allegedly difficult to install were in vain?
Though on a serious note, I unironically wanted Gentoo/BSD to keep existing so I could move to it. I like FreeBSD (but not its users) or DragonflyBSD but pkg/pkgsrc can’t hold a candle to Portage in terms of letting you fine tune your install.
I started using Gentoo many years ago, and took a break from it for a few years. It has some overhead to maintain. Two years or so ago I went back to it and, no joke, it is so much simpler now. Dist-kernel, dracut, refind just sorted everything. I felt like I was cheating. I don’t have to write my own custom initramfs for my custom needs? Stuff just solves it? And compilation errors and conflicts even when running a bunch of keyworded packages: gone! What is going on?
When Python 3.something hit they did a massive overhaul on emerge’s resolution algorythm so it helped a lot when resolving stuff - and now you almost never need to use
revdep.rebuildor things like that, I frankly forgot when it was the last time I used it, probably it has been years. Plus now things like binaries for heavy packages, portage hooks and stuff like that makes things a lot easier for people coming in. I’m really not sure why people still bitch on it or why some people seem to need every package they install available right away… but at least for me it’s been great all this years.Yeah! I forgot about revdep-rebuild! Now that you remind me I do remember being worried about having to rebuild modules, forgetting about it, having to boot frlm live and chroot, and what not going back to Gentoo. I had almsot completely forgotten about it because it is so smooth sailing now.
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Well I’m glad someone understands.
Just tell them it’s like “Gentoo, but better”
Haiku.
https://www.haiku-os.org/ is the most fun I‘ve had with an OS in along time.
What’s the elevator pitch for it, seems cool
The excellent answer by @bartydecanter@lemmy.sdf.org already presented the cool features of the file system. There are a bunch of other interesting features found throughout the OS.
Pervasive multithreading and multitasking makes Haiku very reactive and fast, even under load. Back when BeOS came out, the killer demo was playing several videos simultaneously without stutter. This is of course less impressive today, but you can fell this all over the OS when using it.
Window management has two really cool features called Stack and Tile. Enabling you to stick windows together, so they move as one. On top of that you can put several windows from different applications together into one tabbed window bar . It’s super cool and unique.
The biggest difference when using it compared to the big desktop operating systems today is that it gets out of your way and just lets you do things. Using it will make you realize how cumbersome the current desktop has become. Of course there are some security downsides, as there’s no pervasive sandboxing, rights management, and so on.
Running on real hardware can be difficult because of a lack of drivers. I highly recommend trying it in a VM (VirtualBox, qemy, UTM) first. The increasing number of ports (mostly FOSS stuff you know from Linux) make this operating system actually practically usable. The ports don’t take advantage of the Haiku specific features, but are great overall. Especially the KDE apps are a good fit.
Some people say it’s ready to be a daily driver even it’s still in beta, others say it’s what Linux used to be .
