People contribute to FSF to support programmers to make important Libre products like this one and give it away , seems so wasteful for a government to fund a whole new different effort
Having used both Jitsi and LiveKit, I get it. Jitsi is great if you use it as it is, but if you want to integrate video conferencing into your own solution and customize everything, LiveKit is the logical choice. (I think it is also much newer then Jitsi, which used to be the only choice.)
Also, I think Matrix integrated LiveKit for video over their existing Jitsi integration, so… the ecosystem seems to flock around LiveKit anyway. So maybe the’ll contribute to LiveKit if they find issues with it, and everyone benefits from that.
They rewrote a messenger and the entire office suite. They could’ve collaborated with the Germans in making OpenDesk. Imagine all the dev time going into making Forgejo federated instead of rewriting everything a different way that isn’t interoperable with another government’s tools.
Maybe it has to start with way, every government making their own FOSS tools, features and code getting closer and closer together until they finally merge or dump one FOSS tool over another FOSS tool. 🤷
The problem is what they see as inefficiency. Social services, education, and a bunch of other things that are actually beneficial to society they consider a waste of money. There is overlap in what I consider inefficient and waste, but it is small. This does make the cut though.
It is so frustrating to see how tax payers are funding projects that reinvent the weel over and over. EU can just fund a good open source self hosted option then every country host it for it self.
IMO, it’s a matter of time. They will learn eventually. We’re just at the beginning and mistakes are being made and will continue to be made. However, I’m much happier with them doing is as FOSS instead of some proprietary, closed source crap that has to be rewritten for millions by some external company a politician happens to know.
Why why why not just use Jitsi ?
People contribute to FSF to support programmers to make important Libre products like this one and give it away , seems so wasteful for a government to fund a whole new different effort
Having used both Jitsi and LiveKit, I get it. Jitsi is great if you use it as it is, but if you want to integrate video conferencing into your own solution and customize everything, LiveKit is the logical choice. (I think it is also much newer then Jitsi, which used to be the only choice.)
If they wanted to integrate a finished product, I would expect them to use Matrix over Jitsi, because it seems to have seen some use in France already.
Also, I think Matrix integrated LiveKit for video over their existing Jitsi integration, so… the ecosystem seems to flock around LiveKit anyway. So maybe the’ll contribute to LiveKit if they find issues with it, and everyone benefits from that.
They rewrote a messenger and the entire office suite. They could’ve collaborated with the Germans in making OpenDesk. Imagine all the dev time going into making Forgejo federated instead of rewriting everything a different way that isn’t interoperable with another government’s tools.
Maybe it has to start with way, every government making their own FOSS tools, features and code getting closer and closer together until they finally merge or dump one FOSS tool over another FOSS tool. 🤷
My thought is: at least its FOSS
Conservatives who grumble about the inefficiency of government spending are not wrong
The problem is what they see as inefficiency. Social services, education, and a bunch of other things that are actually beneficial to society they consider a waste of money. There is overlap in what I consider inefficient and waste, but it is small. This does make the cut though.
It is so frustrating to see how tax payers are funding projects that reinvent the weel over and over. EU can just fund a good open source self hosted option then every country host it for it self.
IMO, it’s a matter of time. They will learn eventually. We’re just at the beginning and mistakes are being made and will continue to be made. However, I’m much happier with them doing is as FOSS instead of some proprietary, closed source crap that has to be rewritten for millions by some external company a politician happens to know.
Baby steps.