So, on Reddit (not a good place, I know), the most upvoted comment to a post saying “You get a call from a woman and it makes you angry. Who is she?” was “Ellen ‘Degenerate’”. (Their words, not mine). Since it was hugely upvoted, why is she so bad? All I know is that she is a talk show host and a lesbian.
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She’s been outed as not being the nice person she appears to be on TV. There was a big controversy a few years ago that some of her crew had a lot of stories about her behaviors behind the camera that show that she wasn’t such a nice person to the people who helped make her show a reality.
I don’t remember specifics, but it’s not hard to find if you go looking for videos or articles on it. From what I remember, it was the typical diva sort of behaviors like don’t look her in the eye and being rude to others. Nothing too too serious like sexual assault but still not nice stuff and people view her as a phony since.
There were also some things she did to guests like when she “forced” Mariah Carey to reveal she was pregnant by offering her alcohol and Mariah basically had to admit she was pregnant as to why she wouldn’t drink alcohol. Kind of a shitty thing to do to someone.
to reveal she was pregnant by offering her alcohol and Mariah basically had to admit she was pregnant as to why she wouldn’t drink alcohol
kind of lame that the only reason people can imagine for not drinking an alcohol is “i am pregnant”
Lol, but maybe she just didn’t want to lie. Simpler. You’re right - i bet at that time the idea of “just not drinking” would be ridiculed by the press and general public - but it’s for that reason that Carey might fear she’d get caught up in a bigger lie trying a different excuse.
she’d get caught up in a bigger lie
how would she get caught in a bigger lie? it is her fucking business when she does or does not want to drink alcohol. and even if she drank alcohol some other time, does not mean she must be in mood for it every waking moment. i know, hindsight is 20/20, but the point is that people need to normalize not getting drunk and not having to explain to anyone why they don’t want to.
A couple things I know of related to her talk show: 1) She kind of ‘showed her true colors’ by being snarky and mean-spirited (“haha, it’s all just fun”) towards many a guest, even making some cry or weirdly putting them on the spot when talking about a traumatic thing in their lives; 2) She was seemingly revealed to be a toxic a-hole behind the scenes to her staff and others. This is evidently not unique at all among talk show hosts, but paired with #1, it kind of sunk her reputation, it seemed to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_DeGeneres
In July 2020, ten former employees of The Ellen DeGeneres Show accused DeGeneres of creating a “toxic” on-set atmosphere of “racism, fear, and intimidation”, including failing to address executives sexually harassing female employees and making “racist micro-aggressions and abuse” to or about employees of color, firing employees for taking medical and bereavement leave, and replacing her own crew with non-union workers during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic.[63][64] The allegations, which the employees made anonymously to BuzzFeed News, followed previous reports of hostile and bullying behavior, such as a former employee’s allegation that DeGeneres fired him for setting up a GoFundMe page to cover medical costs not covered by their workplace health insurance.[64][65]
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