So I’m still learning about how gaslight I’ve been about the imperial powers and communist countries. (DPRK blew my mind) I’m now to the point of assuming most of what I’ve known or heard is wrong or straight up lies. All that just to ask, I read some time ago about the terrible anti LGBT+ laws in capitalist Russia. Not to mention how evil Putin is in general. However, since lurking and now joining Lemmygrad, I’m seeing the way people talk about current day Russia and its making me want to ask about its current state especially in regards to LGBT+ rights. I try to look into it online, but honestly, at this point, I trust the people here more than whatever capitalist run outlet I’m likely to find online. I’m pretty sure Russia isn’t a paradise today but I’m wondering what’s actually going on with things.

Thanks

  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml
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    21 days ago

    Even though discussions regarding this topic raises valid criticism against Russia, it is important to also not stay only in the criticism but to understand why it happened(in other words, contextualization is key) and how to avoid it(or solve it) in other places.

    What the imperialist did in Russia, along with the current siege and russophobia, is called dialectical baiting:

    And there is evidence of the baiting if we check the conversations of Epstein and one imperialist collaborator in Russia:

    The imperialist baiting can be defined as: “Co-opting progressive causes to taint resistance. Here, imperialism cynically drapes itself in liberation rhetoric (women’s rights, LGBT rights, secularism) to alienate anti-imperialist movements from global solidarity and frame them as reactionary.”

    The USA used that baiting not only against Russia but against countries like China as well:

    You can read the entire post on dialectical baiting here in XHS -> http://xhslink.com/o/8smOPYaERUx

    In that post, they give their analysis on how to resist the bait. I could also add a couple of examples of failed dialectical baits such as the Zionists saying that the Palestinian resistance hates the LGBTQ.

    As for the topic on the LGBTQ+ in Russia, it will take time to heal but it is a battle that has to be fought in two fronts:

    • Our Russian LGBTQ+ comrades have to fight the Western identity that fell for the bait and construct a new movement that is native to them. This is a very similar fight that is occurring in plenty of other places in the Global South like Burkina Faso’s LGBTQ+ as well.

    • Our Global North comrades have to fight and expel liberalism from the LGBTQ+ orgs and avoid the imperialist using your identity to justify genocide. Example of a dialectical bait where a fascist uses the LGBTQ+ identity to justify genocide -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/8379615

    • Maeve @lemmygrad.ml
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      21 days ago

      Soooo… JK Rowling might be an op?

      Thanks for this, comrade! Idk who to credit, but the old axiom seems at play: they keep us focused on culture wars to keep us from class wars.

    • AzureMoon@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      21 days ago

      Thank you for such a informative post! I’ll look into these links first chance. I’ve actually always felt connected to Russia because of my ancestral roots but I’m multi gen US now. Disappointed to hear how far its fallen but I hope to see a united, socialist Russia some day. I’ve been learning a ton about Soviet history so contextualization has become second nature at this point.

      Thanks again.

      • rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml
        3·
        21 days ago

        They will recover. I see this as a setback that will soon be corrected.

        Also, kudos for investigating and contextualizing. Having that mindset helps to find solutions and strategies to plenty of problems such as this one. If you have any other question regarding history or any other topic, you can always ask in Lemmygrad! We have discussed plenty regarding Soviet History here!

        Take care!

    • prof_tincoa@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      21 days ago

      Dialectical Baiting ^ is a key concept to understand what’s going on in Russia and other places regarding reactionary tendencies.

    • k4z199@lemmygrad.ml
      1·
      21 days ago

      hello, apologies but is the link working? I can’t seem to make it work, I would love to read more on the dialectical baiting.