End homelessness, 20-30B. Yeah, that’s a real number!
I am totally against the war, but these numbers are complete from the depths of someone’s ass.
There’s always money to kill people, never enough to save people.
Relevant Iran Conflict Cost Monitor
This site is beautiful! The sight, however, is atrocious
Obviously the loss of human life is terrible, but I want to add an economic reason also.
War is just absolutely terrible for the global economy. Munitions are single use. They explode and are gone. Not to mention the destruction of manufacturing, human lives, and general instability of wartorn regions.
Investing in infrastructure improves commerce. Investing in education, healthcare, and other social services increases worker productivity and number of workers. It’s a no-brainer from an economic perspective to invest in all of those things.
A rising tide lifts all ships.
You’re looking at it from the payors’ perspective.
If you look at it from the sellers’ perspective (or that of those in cahoots with them) then it suddenly becomes a very good deal economically.
The problem is that they want us sinking below the waves, not rising above them.
I mean how much could a banana cost, Michael, 200 billion dollars ?
Someone is profiting from the war and no one profits from those other things
Simply not true. All those reforms would be a huge economic stimulus to all of those sectors. Imagine how much activity would be generated in all of those sectors, and activity equals money.
The problem isn’t profit, it’s that those things help people, and more importantly, it EMPOWERS them, and MAGA doesn’t want that. They wants us to remain weak and struggling, and dependent on them.
We have the money, it is just managed by people who want to spend it on enslaving us instead of freeing us.
Also “universal college” gives all companies a huge pool of skilled and specialized workers.
This is the reason we have public schools in first place. Government is not “thinking of the kids.” Corporate simply profits from literate population that can do basic math and use technology.
Ideally companies like amazon would pay a portion of the extra profits they made back into the education through taxes and keep it going, but in practice we reject free school lunches because “education is a privilege.”
Unfortunately, that’s Old School thinking. The new mindset among the Sociopathic Oligarchs is that we won’t need education in the future since AI and robotics is going to replace nearly all of us in the workforce. Thus, education to create productive workers is no longer necessary.
Instead, it will be more important to use education for political indoctrination, so we will better accept & support our slavery and exploitation, and not understand enough about our society to be able to fight back.
BlueMAGA doesnt wnt it either
Valid.
This has always been a WHOLE political problem. Not just the assholes in red hats.
You’re right, the Dems haven’t done their part at all, but we all know the biggest problem is going to be the MAGAs. We can elect enough Progressives to get to a place where we can actually get legislation for Universal Health Care, but EVERY MAGA will vote against it.
Any politicians that are a potential threat to the status quo will never be put into positions to challenge that status quo. People can elect them all day long and they won’t have any power.
This is part of the problem. When you send the message that you expect them to do nothing, they will absolutely do nothing, and that’s YOUR fault for surrendering in advance.
We have to let them know that we EXPECT them to act decisively, and them punish them on Election Day if they won’t do what they are told. The Reagan Republicans did that, and took over their party from the old guard, and it led to them having far more power than they should.
The Dems have to reproduce that success, and they will have the advantage of Trump’s death in the not so distant future. When that happens, the Trump Cult of Personality will fracture, the knives will come out, and the back-stab ing will begin. The Dems should have a plan in place to capitalize on that chaos among MAGA.
Decades of history have already told us that they are not going to do what they are told. We don’t need to wait till Election day, at that point, it’s too late. They wouldn’t even release the findings of their own research of how they failed in 2024, because those findings showed that it was self inflicted. Politics of the 80s are not the same as politics of today, Up until Bill Clinton, it was a very distinctive Democrat Party, a very distinctive Republican Party. At this point we have two right wing factions fighting the working class to stay in power.
I don’t care about history. These are unprecedented times, and they require unprecedented solutions. We SCREAMED for justice for Trump and MAGA during the Biden administration, and they all but ignored us.
That will NOT happen again, or they will leave us no choice but to deal with it ourselves, and if THAT happens, stubbornly cowardly Democrats are going to find themselves standing right alongside the MAGA criminals.
They WILL do what we tell them the next time, or else. It is time for the good Citizens of this country to stop being polite, and demand justice, OR ELSE.
I actually think we may get that. The next crop of new Congressional Rep’s and Senators that will almost certainly give the Dems the majority in both Chambers, and they aren’t running for office to provide Business As Usual. They are coming in to reform the system and they will have The People behind them. The old guard is going to have to welcome them, and give them what they want, because those new elected representatives carry the people’s mandate, and they all know it, and more importantly, WE know it, and are going to insist that that new mandate leads the way.
We aren’t asking for much. We aren’t looking for political retribution like MAGA is. We are only looking for justice for their CRIMES, which are many, and notorious. They all need to be charged and prosecuted for what they have done to this country, and it’s citizens, and to outsiders who deserve the protections of our laws.
We are only looking for justice for their CRIMES. Is that too much to demand?
Over simplified by comment: almost no one profits from those other investments. That said, I agree with you that the profitability is very focused. And America still is a huge weapon manufacturer, so war is always good for some very important people there.
I’d like to signal boost @BarneyPiccolo’s insightful comment, but really everything he has said in this thread is spot on.
When you understand the nature of game, you can’t unsee the patterns. The oligarchs are all vying for more power; money is just how they keep score. Enmiseration of the populace isn’t even as profitable as a content, healthy, educated populace, but it’s a “nice” shortcut to expanding the power of a few (read: enslaving the proles). We never banned slavery in the US; we merely shifted the cost of ownership to the slaves.
“We don’t gave the last PID”?
