You mean installing? How Google is going to handle restricting us from installing apps on our phone? Thats what it is. Sideloading doesn’t fucking exist.
Stop complaining, just use a different mobile OS.
… oh, shit!
See y’all on !linuxphones@lemmy.ca
Thank you. I gave that community a subscribe because I want to use a Linux phone at some point in the future.
The big thing I have to make sure of is accessibility as I am a low vision user who requires the use of screen magnification at the very minimum and a screen reader is preferred for text such as articles and websites.
A Linux phone won’t help with the problem side loading stopping problem.
Last time I used side loading was on a driving trip in Italy, I wanted the ZTA app so I could see where I wasn’t able to drive and plan routes that avoided ZTAs. A Linux phone wouldn’t have helped as no one would publish such an app for Linux unless the user population was in the tens of percentage
ZTAs are the no cars allowed areas, usually the middle of towns
Waydroid let’s you use Android apps on linux, and Jolla (I think thats the right company) has their own proprietary Android compatibility layer. Not to say the experience is perfect, I’d say its closer to how WINE was 10-15 years ago. But it wouldve been do-able, albeit probably with a bit of headache.
Waydroid works great on my steam deck
+1
Id argue linux phones being used will fix the problem. People not publishing an app for linux isn’t because it’s impossible it’s because nobody is using it.
I’ve heard people call it sideloading for actual PCs.
Like, the fuck?
If your computer came shipped in windows S mode it’s kinda apt.
“Actual” PCs.
They are actual pcs
Your not-so personal walled garden is a personal computer?
I have no clue what you’re trying to say.
PC = Personal Computer
The strings mentioned are worrying. The developer verification requires an internet access - what if there’s no internet or the connection is spotty? Does that mean you can’t install the APK without Uncle Google having the internet first?
Android already scares you away from installing APKs.
A modern Android device does not simply let you install an APK without going through a lotta mental gymnastics. On a Xiaomi device with HyperOS, you have to turn the permission on for it and sit there for ten seconds to read their warnings before you can manually proceed. Each time you install something, there’s a chance Google Play will pop up to tell you the app does not support a modern Android version, and it will require your unlock or fingerprint to even continue. Not to mention some apps literally tell you Google Play is unsure of their security and offers you to send it so what I assume is their automated systems could give the APK file a look.
If all these scare tactics didn’t stop you, there’s nothing more Google or the manufacturers could do without stripping even more of what made Android great in the first place.
Look up the word “Enshittification” in a dictionary and you’ll see the android logo right next to it
There’s also some fucker named “Automatic Blocker” on (Samsung’s (?)) Android devices that is on by default, which prevents installation of APKs.
As in, no side loading at all on Sammy devices? I find that hard to believe. You mean more restrictions on installing just some but not all APKs, right? That’s still scummy either way if true.
You CAN disable it (heck, you can even remove the package via ADB). But it’s still annoying that it’s the default.
I once read that uninstalling packages with ADB on Xiaomi phones would make it even more painful to unlock the bootloader. It’s probably just a one off half truth but even that made me be wary of just uninstalling things - but yeah this means whenever someone wants to sideload something on a Samsung they need to follow a tutorial at best, that’s blegh.
oh, yeah…
Xiaomi is a pain in the ass.True. They’re nice in some ways, but not all the ways.
“sideloading”
Exactly. Stop using sideloading. The correct term is “installing”.
Google wants to prevent users from installing apps on their phones.
See the same nonsense in the PC world with people talking about their “anticheat” when in what they really mean is “rootkit”
“For your security”
That’s the old Apple standby.
Very happy with GrapheneOS.
While it last, Google is disabling apks and you think they won’t lock bootloaders?
Which is why I’m monitoring !linuxphones@lemmy.ca for updates and good targets to daily drive for work purposes. We can’t trust Google anymore.
Well the next gen graphene os release will be on their own devices. They’re working with an OEM now.
Allegedly. But they are also looking at a Qualcomm chipset too, allegedly. Qualcomm is a US military contractor.
It’s a quite ironic it’s only available for Google’s phones.
e/os is fine too.
GrapheneOS is a nice reprieve from the sea of endless enshittification news flowing forth from Big Tech these days.
Is the ui the same as Pixel?
Yeah. The biggest issues I’ve had with it are:
Google Wallet does not load (I use Passes or Catima to download tickets) and tap to pay does not work - Google Pay still works, just not through the app.
Some financial apps don’t work. CapitalOne doesn’t open, but I only need to login once a month to pay my credit card so I just do it on my computer.
My company’s Microsoft Intune setup didn’t work, but they recently restricted it to iPhone only so that’s not relevant anymore.
Weird. Capital one works fine for me… Did you try exploit protection compatibility mode? I have it enabled for all banking apps.
I cannot for the life of me get Android Auto to work with it.
Mine has always worked first try since they added it. Make sure to set it up through Settings>Apps>Android Auto>Additonal Settings
I missed your reply, thanks I’ll give that a shot. I think I’m going to completely wipe this phone and start over for unrelated reasons.
Just switched and I’m liking it…just need to import my address book with out Google play
Check out Davx5, that’s what I used to pull contacts and calendar
Which repository does that app.live on?
I got it from f-droid, but you could pull it from github as well
Thanks, now any advice for a calendar I can share across devices that is not Google calendar?
There’s plenty, tuta calendar, proton calendar, nextcloud if you want to self-host ,…
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for your info, much appreciated!
the biggest problem hasn’t yet emerged, let’s say Orange turd will use his power to force Goolag to restrict access to the Goolag account for any country or entity for any of his moronic reason.
Bigger would be leveraging Android System SafetyCore or iOS mediaanalysisd to stalk-spy on the contents of everyone’s phones on-demand for the State. The software is already there, and on both platforms have deep entitlements…
