• guldukat@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Trump had to fuck and eat that kid. He was busting the libs and not fucking kids would have blown his cover

    -maga, eventually

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    Spoiler: they did in fact eat the child after raping her and forcing her to give birth to a baby who they also raped and murdered but Americans didn’t care enough to overthrow this regime so other children are getting raped and eaten as we speak

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      What in the ever-loving holy hell is this?

      Okay, so I know we all dislike the current administration, and the Epstein files are damning evidence absolutely.

      And the sooner this regime changes or the office is vacated, the better for literally everyone on the face of the planet.

      But I just want to make sure that everybody understands: there is currently no credible evidence that this has occurred.

      There is no credible evidence that cannibalism occurred.

      There are some very dubious things we could potentially conjecture about, but there is no evidence suggesting this.

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        Though there is plenty of evidence they dissolved bodies as well as dumped them as medical waste from a hospital into the ocean.

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          There is in fact not plenty of evidence. There is no evidence.

          The sulfuric acid claim gets repeated constantly. Yes, invoices show Epstein purchased several 55-gallon drums of sulfuric acid. What people conveniently omit is the context. The island had a large reverse osmosis desalination system, and sulfuric acid is a very standard industrial chemical used to control pH and prevent scale buildup in those systems. There’s no forensic evidence anywhere in the files suggesting it was used for anything else.

          The “medical waste dumped in the ocean” theory doesn’t appear in the Epstein investigation records at all. This seems to be people conflating unrelated scandals, like historical hospital waste dumping cases, with the Epstein story. The FBI and DOJ files make no mention of that method.

          There are also viral claims about ritualistic sacrifice or dismemberment on his yacht. Something vaguely like this does appear in the files, but it comes from unverified FBI interview summaries. Agents documented hundreds of tips, and not all of them were credible. Those specific claims were never supported by physical evidence, satellite imagery, or additional witnesses.

          Finally, the “Project Medbirth” or MedBeds documents circulating online are simply fabricated. The document numbers cited in those posts don’t exist in the DOJ archive.

          In short, the files confirm Epstein was involved in systemic trafficking and abuse. That alone is horrific. But the acid body-disposal and medical-waste theories appear to come from misread documents and internet myth-making rather than anything substantiated in the records.

          Look I’m not a supporter of anything Epstein related. I’m not trying to justify anything, I’m just looking at the evidence. And making up crap and summarily believing in crap on the internet isn’t helping any of this.

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            It’s crazy how people who would normally (and rightly) denounce reich-wingers for being credulous morons will instantly turn into credulous morons once the ridiculous conspiracy theories are about oligarchs

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          It has. The doj did indeed investigate and found no incredible evidence of cannibalism or anything described in the above comment.

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            4 hours ago

            Do you have any other hobbies besides defending pedofiles and making up fake facts that exonerate them?

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            4 hours ago

            Just trust me bro investigative services? You got a source? Because it in reality the DOJ was negligent and didn’t investigate

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      A few years ago, I read Marquis de Sade’s 120 Days of Sodom. It was one of the most important books I’ve read because it gave me a new perspective on the depths of human evil. Did not expect to see the Epstein files be such a faithful reenactment…

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    21 hours ago

    Nah fuck this guy though. He is not an ‘agorist’. He is a simp for fascism and wants to round leftists up and put them in camps.

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    Conservatives in 1998: The president told a lie, impeach.

    Conservatives in 2028: Trump said it’s legal for him to run again, and I have no reason not to believe him. Honest guy, tells it like it is.

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      20 hours ago

      Fucking children is always rape. But rape doesn’t necessarily require fucking.

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    And the Qanon Pizzagate people are nowhere to be found when they would be the loudest people online about this issue.

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      they only care about it as long as it’s a conspiracy

      same as how republicans only care about the “wellbeing of children” as long as they aren’t already born

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        I mean it is a conspiracy, a conspiracy to rape and eat children. Just because it’s real doesn’t mean it’s not a conspiracy, it’s just a factual one, not a theory.

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          qanon was the only “theory” involved. we KNEW about epstein by the time pizzagate started. he was arrested under Bush. the prosecution just took that long.

          the conspiracy theories around this were all wrong and intentionsl misdirection about a real active case. they didn’t Crack anything. the whole thing was horse shit. the pedo ring was already public knowledge.

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    Why are you against eating children? It should be fine as long as they are killed humanely and you use all body parts right?

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      Hmmm… I get the sentiment, and if you were just exaggerating a bit for comedy I get it. However… I just thought of something interesting about that comment.

      We often say things like “a fate worse than death.” And we make assumptions of where we feel we would rather be dead than go through something like that.

      But now imagine you were a rape survivor and someone did the hard work to get over that trauma. I wonder what would go through their head if they parsed that statement as, 'Don’t you wish they killed you instead of raped you and you were just dead right now instead of healed and alive?"

      Social interaction is so so complex, I can hardly believe we manage it at all. Speaking as an autistic person that struggles with these nuances. Sometimes I just don’t understand the rules of what some people are going to find offensive or not, sometimes it seems so random to me because I can’t see all the variables I need to predict the outcome.

      Edit: wait I just did it again didn’t I. Were you just saying, “Eating them is less bad than a blowjob” which is a hilarious joke? I’m so bad at jokes 😭 I don’t miss every joke, but I probably miss most of them.

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        I think rape is seen worse because of the meaninglessness of it.

        There might be a reason to kill someone. Rape is just giving into your inner demons.

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          Ah but doesn’t that line of hypothetical thinking require the very very specific premise of the killer having a good reason and the rapist having a bad reason?

          Now if those are the conditions, my brain goes ok!

          Hypothetical accepted. Scenario: a child rapist is punished for raping children by a fellow prisoner who is feeling self righteous. The form of punishment he inflicts? Rape.

          Is Rape worse than killing now? Also, I heard long ago that rape is more about power dynamics than sexual gratification. I don’t know if that changes anything.

          Whatcha think?

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              So if something is part of a culture it becomes valid automatically? What if there’s a tribe in some village somewhere in the world that enforces arranged marriage between the oldest man in the village and the youngest girl in the village every time there is a blue moon. Or some other such example.

              Does that change anything? When does culture become insufficient? Or culture is definitely the rule?

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                Not really. We’re just in a cultural turning point where we realize how bad rape is alongside with our definition of rape moving away from “horny pervert in ski mask found in easy to avoid dark alleys”, and even “drunken sex” is being shunned; but not everyone have moved on from it, especially in cases like this (at least prison rape of pedophiles are getting surpassed by shivs).

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                  I gotcha, so your main goal here is just pointing out that cultures shift over time and we are in such a cultural shift at present and people should be cognizant of that fact. I definitely agree with that.

                  Not sure why I get down voted for trying to ask enough questions to understand something, but such is my autism. Used to it by now. Thanks for the chat, sorry it took that long. Social paradigms are very complicated to me.

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        I was not making a joke so you were on point.

        I think that if you ask people that went through that kind of abuse as kids, you’ll realise that they never heal from it. When you know those people, you see that they either would have preferred to die, or made it happen.

        Child abuse is horrible and generally not something that can be heal. That kind of abuse is even worse.

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          I mean that’s a pretty big claim in my mind. I’ve gotten over some pretty traumatic stuff myself. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I can honestly tell you I will claim I’m 100% at peace with my life now that I did all that work, and I honestly feel nothing but love for even my parents who were responsible for the horrific trauma.

          So when you say that, my brain goes, ehhhhh I’m pretty sure all psychological damage can be undone with the correct psychological processes. It’s just a question of finding the right answer. Am I saying it’s likely or common? Absolutely not. But it’s possible. Now we just argue about what sliding scale we want to consider as statistically meaningful and a means of testing for that.

          Sorry for rambling!

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            Even if it is theoretically possible to overcome it, I don’t think that it can be assumed that it’s the case for most people, and/or that they wouldn’t have preferred death.

            Not minimising what you went through, but the specific kind of abuse I was targeting messes up a gigantic amount of things in the brain. You end up being fucked up on so many points that more often than not, it’s not possible to recover from.

            I’ve known people struggle for years and years before just dying, and others struggle for decades with problems seeming to get worse rather than better.

            Nowadays people try to make it look like it’s just one trauma amongst others, but for a lot (most?) of the victims, it’s a source of endless suffering and often makes their lives much worse than if they died instead.

            And you’re not rambling, we’re just having a conversation, no worries. This is the internet, if I don’t want to read no one forces me to

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              ♥️ I tend to be very very cautious when speaking now, autism has gotten me a lifetime of misunderstanding.