Okay the gen z men/boys data is shocking, but also, what the fuck is going on with Gen z women/girls?! The fact that the percentages associated with any of those questions are non zero is wild. I guess some of those could be explained through religious indoctrination, but it’s crazy they would be higher than the boomer women responses.
No, no they are not. All of those numbers are shocking. The manosphere is an abomination. I would say social media has really done a number on a significant number of people, but it looks like porn correlates most with these attitudes.
I wonder what the differences are between how and how much the general population uses/views pornography versus the mysoginistic population. The article doesn’t really discuss that.
The math in the study does show a moderate correlation between frequency of pornography use and misogyny.
However, the key finding of the study is that once one accounts for misogyny and other hostile attitudes, the correlation of online behaviors with violent extremism mostly falls away. It’s heartbreaking to read that their teacher survey found misogynist attitudes in children as young as six and seven. Meger’s recommendations at the end of the study focus at length on catching this stuff early.
There’s a small problem with the “pornography use” framing.
Which pornography?
My SO and I use pornography. But it’s specifically “couples porn” most times, not the hyper-degrading stuff that seems to be most popular these days. There’s a lot of room for nuance in the pornography discussion. There’s a world of difference between Japanese rape porn (and yes, I’m calling it out that specifically!), American degradation porn (and yes, again I’m calling it out that specifically!), and so on down a spectrum that leads to couples-oriented porn.
My read here is that the study backs you up on that, since it suggests the misogynistic attitudes are driving so much of the extremism, but the survey didn’t get more granular than frequency of use. What I’d love to know is if certain categories of pornography overlap with advertising for the manosphere, since the picture coming into focus here is one of overlapping, rather unpleasant content soup.
Okay the gen z men/boys data is shocking, but also, what the fuck is going on with Gen z women/girls?! The fact that the percentages associated with any of those questions are non zero is wild. I guess some of those could be explained through religious indoctrination, but it’s crazy they would be higher than the boomer women responses.
Like I said. The kids aren’t alright. 😢
No, no they are not. All of those numbers are shocking. The manosphere is an abomination. I would say social media has really done a number on a significant number of people, but it looks like porn correlates most with these attitudes.
I wonder what the differences are between how and how much the general population uses/views pornography versus the mysoginistic population. The article doesn’t really discuss that.
The math in the study does show a moderate correlation between frequency of pornography use and misogyny.
However, the key finding of the study is that once one accounts for misogyny and other hostile attitudes, the correlation of online behaviors with violent extremism mostly falls away. It’s heartbreaking to read that their teacher survey found misogynist attitudes in children as young as six and seven. Meger’s recommendations at the end of the study focus at length on catching this stuff early.
There’s a small problem with the “pornography use” framing.
Which pornography?
My SO and I use pornography. But it’s specifically “couples porn” most times, not the hyper-degrading stuff that seems to be most popular these days. There’s a lot of room for nuance in the pornography discussion. There’s a world of difference between Japanese rape porn (and yes, I’m calling it out that specifically!), American degradation porn (and yes, again I’m calling it out that specifically!), and so on down a spectrum that leads to couples-oriented porn.
My read here is that the study backs you up on that, since it suggests the misogynistic attitudes are driving so much of the extremism, but the survey didn’t get more granular than frequency of use. What I’d love to know is if certain categories of pornography overlap with advertising for the manosphere, since the picture coming into focus here is one of overlapping, rather unpleasant content soup.
Did they work out whether that was from kids being left unsupervised with tablet or from learned attitudes from their psychopath gen z parents?
Could go either way. Here’s some of the quotes from the teachers:
Lots of talk about Andrew Tate videos going viral, too (though I’d hope that’s older students).