• refalo@programming.dev
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    6 days ago

    I recently saw a story that claimed some guy wears the glasses as a form of protection from lying women.

    I don’t know if it’s BS or not, but the fact that I can’t tell, doesn’t seem like a good thing for society.

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      5 days ago

      How would that even work? Wouldn’t they have to film the entire intercourse which would be straight out illegal? Because I assume we’re talking about false rape allegations, not lying about their hobbies or something. Sounds like a bad excuse to gather dirt and bully someone later.

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      5 days ago

      I could see that unfortunately. I’ve had the unfortunate luck to meet people (both men and women but more women) that to call snakes would be an insult to the snake.

      On a date though? Listen, keep an open mind, and cut bait if they do something that betrays your comfort zone. Avoid compromising situations, you don’t know them, that’s why it’s a date. No matter what you have to open up and trust just a little, and recording for legal and training purposes just ain’t that.

      So imho, as a person that absolutely understands wanting help with social interactions and dealing with trust issues, I don’t believe 99% men saying this is the reason they need the perve glasses on.

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        6 days ago

        People who lie about SA/etc. and destroy people’s lives are unfortunately real (regardless of gender/sex) and isn’t that uncommon. This is an extremely sensitive and controversial issue for everyone, that I don’t think can be fairly distilled into a sweeping generalized accusation.

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                  5 days ago

                  Rape and sexual assault occurr more often than fake accusations.

                  This is a factually true statement regardless of how anyone feels about it.

                  Survivors rarely make false reports about sexual assault. Only 6% of sexual assaults are reported to the police. And false accusations of sexual assault happen no more than false reports of other types of crime: about 2% to 4%, which means 96% to 98% of the reports are true.

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                    A distinction needs to be made of false criminal reports, and false claims in general.

                    False claims of any crime are going to be substantially higher than false criminal reports of the same crime. The barrier to entry is just much lower. And there is still a social cost to being falsely accused of a crime even without a police report. (Loss of employment, social alienation).

                    It’s also probably not true that it happens at the same rate as other reports. Certain crimes are more plausible to lie about than others, I would imagine false homicide claims are rare since there aren’t mountains of dead people to pin on someone.

                    In the case of things like sexual assault and child abuse, there is lots of positive sympathy to exploit for something that is almost impossible to prove wrong, so the cost-benefit is much better than most other accusations of crime.

                    (Notice how often child molestation comes up in criminal defenses? It’s an easy way to milk sympathy, while being impossible to disprove.)

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          6 days ago

          Probably the same reason you’re not wearing one either. It’s not a problem until it happens to you.

          I didn’t want to have to put cameras all around both the outside AND inside my house either, but after breakins and vandalism the police proved to me I’m completely on my own. My insurance also dropped me after I tried to make a claim “without sufficient evidence.”

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            6 days ago

            If all these men are claiming all these women are out to get them and make false statements, they would have already been using every tool available, hence they would have been wearing some form of body cam prior to this. They are simply saying it now, because it’s way more discreet to use these glasses and potentially use them for other purposes.

            If you are using cameras for some kind of defense, you make them loud and proud, not super discreet. They are designed to be a visual deterrent so the possible crime is less likely to happen in the first place.

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              2 days ago

              Given the controversy already present with “super discreet”, wouldn’t you expect even greater negative social pressure with “loud and proud”?

              It seems obvious that acting paranoid (regardless of sex or the subject of fear), results in negative views of the person, so they would naturally want to hide their paranoia.

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                2 days ago

                If they are honestly using it as a defense to false accusations, they SHOULD be ok with being loud and proud about it.

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                  1 day ago

                  Saying “I’m taking precautions against you” is borderline accusatory. If this was the true reason no socially competent person would say this.