But that’s not housing density which is what this entire discussion has been about. That’s city density (or urban density, depending on which city planner you talk to), an entirely different metric. You should not conflate the two as then discussing city planning becomes impossible because nobody will be using the same terms.
Housing density is, should be, and will always be, how many residences you have per chunk of land (acres in us, hectares in UK).
suburban UK housing is still much more densely developed than US-style suburbs
I would read that as the entire settlement. Same way as replacing “suburbs” with “cities” would also include commerical and utility.
If americans don’t consider commerical areas part of suburbs, where do you go to buy stuff?
Suburb is specifically residential. You might have a pharmacy here or there but by and large it’s residences. Thats the definition of suburb. The commercial area at the edge of suburbs you go to get groceries and clothes is exactly that, a commercial district.
That makes it sound like suburbia is a large patchwork of “suburb” and “edge of the suburbs”. Definitely not how I would understand it as a european.
Regardless of what OP meant, I would personally care about the overall density of all places people commonly need to get to or through, compared for us and european suburbia.
So counting houses, roads, regulatorilly demanded greenspace padding, sidewalks, shops, recreation, utilities. Maybe even parks.
But that’s not housing density which is what this entire discussion has been about. That’s city density (or urban density, depending on which city planner you talk to), an entirely different metric. You should not conflate the two as then discussing city planning becomes impossible because nobody will be using the same terms.
Housing density is, should be, and will always be, how many residences you have per chunk of land (acres in us, hectares in UK).
I would read that as the entire settlement. Same way as replacing “suburbs” with “cities” would also include commerical and utility.
If americans don’t consider commerical areas part of suburbs, where do you go to buy stuff?
Suburb is specifically residential. You might have a pharmacy here or there but by and large it’s residences. Thats the definition of suburb. The commercial area at the edge of suburbs you go to get groceries and clothes is exactly that, a commercial district.
That makes it sound like suburbia is a large patchwork of “suburb” and “edge of the suburbs”. Definitely not how I would understand it as a european.
Regardless of what OP meant, I would personally care about the overall density of all places people commonly need to get to or through, compared for us and european suburbia.
So counting houses, roads, regulatorilly demanded greenspace padding, sidewalks, shops, recreation, utilities. Maybe even parks.